So, republicans don't like ...

[SkyRock]

I hardly doubt that any principle would ever say NO to a scheduled Dr/DDS appointment ...

but......this law gives them that right. 





slap, I had full custody of my kids for 3 years, all one has to do is show custody agreement to the school and the non-custodial parent cannot take the child from school. 

[SkyRock]

 There's one and only one motivation for these kinds of laws: attendance=money.

Exactly. 

[Elfie]

My question to you is, do you think that you should need the principals approval for taking your daughter to the dentist?

You can take the child to the dentist, you don't need the principals approval for that. In fact, I'm not seeing where you need the principals approval at all, the law is just stating that you need to give prior notice and bring a note from the dentist proving that you did in fact take the child to the dentist.

I think it's a bit over the top to require both. Imo, just the copies of the paperwork you get from the doctor/dentist should be enough to provide for an excused absence.

[Shamus]

You can take the child to the dentist, you don't need the principals approval for that. In fact, I'm not seeing where you need the principals approval at all, the law is just stating that you need to give prior notice and bring a note from the dentist proving that you did in fact take the child to the dentist.

I think it's a bit over the top to require both. Imo, just the copies of the paperwork you get from the doctor/dentist should be enough to provide for an excused absence.

My telling the Principal that my child is not going to be there should be enough to provide for an excused absence.

shamus

[SkyRock]

I think it's a bit over the top to require both. Imo, just the copies of the paperwork you get from the doctor/dentist should be enough to provide for an excused absence.

Exactly, I do not need a principal to tell me ahead of time, that my daughters dentist appointment will not be excused because of any reason.  If I take my daughter out of school to go to the dentist, and we actually got to the dentist, then it should be excused no questions asked.  I do not need some blow hard principal to "determine" whether my dentist appointment is "worhty" of and excused absence.  Because of this new law, a parent is subject to jail time if too many "un-excused" absences are incurred.

[SkyRock]

My telling the Principal that my child is not going to be there should be enough to provide for an excused absence.

shamus

yup, I agree, but because of this law, the pricipal will decide if you are trustworthy enough to get an excused absence for your child.

I just started this thread to rattle the cages of the repubs on this board and ask them if this is the type of law they support.

[Donzo]

What does NCLB have to do with this?

[Shamus]

I just started this thread to rattle the cages of the repubs on this board and ask them if this is the type of law they support.

And they are furiously Googleing at this very moment searching for dem induced laws along the same lines because that is a logical defense 

shamus   

[SkyRock]

What does NCLB have to do with this?

[Hornet33]

You people DO realize that as soon as you enrole your child into school you have signed over custody of your child to the school during school hours? That's right boys and girls, the school has as much legal authority over your children as you do while in class.

You as a parent not only expect, but DEMAND, that the school protect, teach, and take care of your child while in their care do you not? Then why is it so hard to wrap your brains around the fact the the school also has the right to expect and DEMAND that you as a parent give prior notification when you know in advance that child will not be in class? When a chid doesn't show up to school, they spend hours trying to track down that child, contact the parents, and find out what is going on. Is it too much to ask that a parent inform the school in advance if the child will be absent? Evidently it has become that way so they had to make it a law.

Why do you think that is? Because of ultra melon parents that think they are the end all say all when it comes to their child, when in FACT they aren't once that child is enrolled in school. That's why teachers and school officials are required by law to report cases and suspected cases of child neglect. They ARE responsible for your children just as much as you are.

It's sad that parents in this country have gotten to the point a law like this needs to be in place but it makes 100% sense because if little Johnny wasn't in class and got hurt the parents would be suing the crap out of the school for NOT knowing where little Johnny was when he got hurt, so now little Johnny is required to have prior permission to be out of class and it's the parents responsiblity to provide that prior notice.

If anyone here thinks that you shouldn't have to give that notice, home school your kids and then you don't have to worry about it. If that's not an option, then take some freaking personal responsiblity to inform the people that YOU have entrusted with your childs care during the day if you need to take them out of school prior to doing it.

[Donzo]

Seriously. 


The law has been on the books since 1972 (that was before NCLB) and Desoto county decided to act on it this school year becasue it was noted on an audit. 

So, what does this have to do with NCLB? 

[Shamus]

You people DO realize that as soon as you enrole your child into school you have signed over custody of your child to the school during school hours? That's right boys and girls, the school has as much legal authority over your children as you do while in class.

You as a parent not only expect, but DEMAND, that the school protect, teach, and take care of your child while in their care do you not? Then why is it so hard to wrap your brains around the fact the the school also has the right to expect and DEMAND that you as a parent give prior notification when you know in advance that child will not be in class? When a chid doesn't show up to school, they spend hours trying to track down that child, contact the parents, and find out what is going on. Is it too much to ask that a parent inform the school in advance if the child will be absent? Evidently it has become that way so they had to make it a law.

Why do you think that is? Because of ultra melon parents that think they are the end all say all when it comes to their child, when in FACT they aren't once that child is enrolled in school. That's why teachers and school officials are required by law to report cases and suspected cases of child neglect. They ARE responsible for your children just as much as you are.

It's sad that parents in this country have gotten to the point a law like this needs to be in place but it makes 100% sense because if little Johnny wasn't in class and got hurt the parents would be suing the crap out of the school for NOT knowing where little Johnny was when he got hurt, so now little Johnny is required to have prior permission to be out of class and it's the parents responsiblity to provide that prior notice.

If anyone here thinks that you shouldn't have to give that notice, home school your kids and then you don't have to worry about it. If that's not an option, then take some freaking personal responsiblity to inform the people that YOU have entrusted with your childs care during the day if you need to take them out of school prior to doing it.

On the morning of the day in question, "ring, ring, ring, hello Principals office...good morning this is shamus, shamus Jr. will not be in school today he has a dentists appointment".

Should be the end of it.

shamus

[Bodhi]

yup, I agree, but because of this law, the pricipal will decide if you are trustworthy enough to get an excused absence for your child.

I just started this thread to rattle the cages of the repubs on this board and ask them if this is the type of law they support.

I know of plenty of irresponsible parents that are definitely untrustworthy...

[Shamus]

This is getting rather odd, some of you conservative types seem to agree with the "it takes a village" stuff.

shamus 

[Elfie]

On the morning of the day in question, "ring, ring, ring, hello Principals office...good morning this is shamus, shamus Jr. will not be in school today he has a dentists appointment".

Should be the end of it.

shamus

I agree, that should be sufficient.