501 group stooping to new lows..

[midnight Target]

Funny how the demodummies ignore that changes to the financial laws the Clinton administration put in place that had a very real role in economic problems of today.

If you mean the repeal of Glass-Steagall, then I wonder if you might remember who sponsored that bill? "Put in place by the Clinton Administration" is a complete stretch. Clinton signed the bill... the republiclowns came up with it.

[WMLute]

Prove me wrong.

he can't and knows it.

if he does try he'll just prove you correct.

(which is the funny part)

[crockett]

What is a 501 group? How do we know they intentionally broke the law or if it was merely an honest oversight on someone's part? And what do you mean by the part in bold?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501(c)

"Organizations with this classification are prohibited from conducting political campaign activities to influence elections to public office. Public charities (but not private foundations[citation needed]) are permitted to conduct a limited amount of lobbying to influence legislation. Although the law states that "no substantial part" of a public charity's activities may be devoted to lobbying, charities with very large budgets may lawfully expend a million dollars (under the "expenditure" test) or more (under the "substantial part" test) per year on lobbying. [7]

All 501(c)(3) organizations are also permitted to educate individuals about issues, or fund research that supports their political position without overtly advocating for a position on a specific bill. Think tanks such as the Cato Institute, Center for American Progress, and Heritage Foundation and other 501(c)(3) organizations produce reports and recommendations on policy proposals that do not count as lobbying under the tax code. Another example is the The American Foreign Policy Council is a lobbyist organization operating under this code.

[Dago]

Checkmate.

Checkmate?  Are you kidding me?  He drools and you lick it up?    

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

lol it doesn't matter what I'd show you, you would still stick your head in a hole along with dago, so why should I bother and waste my time?

Strange, haven't we heard this sort of reply before....................... ..................? It seems to be very familiar..................... ..........

[crockett]

That clearly is good enough for you.  How about taking the lead instead of embodying the worst of what you accuse others of?

I've never supported lies. I've posted rumors but that's far from a lie and in fact the only Rumor I've posted about was Palin daughter being prego and that turned out to be true.

[crockett]

Since you are making a habit out of making ignorant statements on this board, speaking from a position of complete oblivion, the time being wasted is ours if we read your nonsense.

Then why are you replying in this topic?

[Ripsnort]

If you mean the repeal of Glass-Steagall, then I wonder if you might remember who sponsored that bill? "Put in place by the Clinton Administration" is a complete stretch. Clinton signed the bill... the republiclowns came up with it.

He signed the bill~I could come up with cloning terrorists in congress, and if Clinton signed it, buck stops there....
The banking industry had been seeking the repeal of Glass-Steagall since at least the 1980's....guess the lobbists finally got an idiot to sign the bill. 

[crockett]

If you mean the repeal of Glass-Steagall, then I wonder if you might remember who sponsored that bill? "Put in place by the Clinton Administration" is a complete stretch. Clinton signed the bill... the republiclowns came up with it.

Actually Clinton "signed" the bill it was sponsored by Republicans. The part that caused the the current problems were hidden deep in the 40 thousand pages of legislation.

[WWhiskey]

counted ten so far , and only went back too the 2nd page!

[crockett]

Strange, haven't we heard this sort of reply before....................... ..................? It seems to be very familiar..................... ..........

I've never given that reply.. I've also posted with supporting facts.. However I'm tired of wasting my time proving something to someone. If he wasn't the info he can look it up him self. It has nothing to do with the topic at hand. I'm quite sure he's capable of using google and doesn't need me to hold his hand.

[crockett]

He signed the bill~I could come up with cloning terrorists in congress, and if Clinton signed it, buck stops there....
The banking industry had been seeking the repeal of Glass-Steagall since at least the 1980's....guess the lobbists finally got an idiot to sign the bill. 

Funny how when it's bad for Clinton then it's all his fault and not the Republicans who were in control of the Senate & congress who actually "wrote" the legislation. Yet if you talk about the budget, then of course it was all due to the Republican congress and Clinton was just along for the ride..

you guys spin so much I'm amazed you can still stand up.

[Toad]

If you mean the repeal of Glass-Steagall, then I wonder if you might remember who sponsored that bill? "Put in place by the Clinton Administration" is a complete stretch. Clinton signed the bill... the republiclowns came up with it.

Yes, it was entirely the Republicans fault! Burn the witches!!

REPUBLICANS FOR (52): Abraham, Allard, Ashcroft, Bennett, Brownback, Bond, Bunning, Burns, Campbell, Chafee, Cochran, Collins, Coverdell, Craig, Crapo, DeWine, Domenici, Enzi, Frist, Gorton, Gramm (Tex.), Grams (Minn.), Grassley, Gregg, Hegel, Hatch, Helms, Hutchinson (Ark.), Hutchison (Tex.), Inhofe, Jeffords, Kyl, Lott, Lugar, Mack, McConnell, Murkowski, Nickles, Roberts, Roth, Santorum, Sessions, Smith (N.H.), Smith (Ore.), Snowe, Specter, Stevens, Thomas, Thompson, Thurmond, Voinovich and Warner.


DEMOCRATS FOR (38): Akaka, Baucus, Bayh, {{{{BIDEN}}}}, Bingaman, Breaux, Byrd, Cleland, Conrad, Daschle, Dodd, Durbin, Edwards, Feinstein, Graham (Fla.), Hollings, Inouye, Johnson, Kennedy, Kerrey (Neb.), Kerry (Mass.), Kohl, Landrieu, Lautenberg, Leahy, Levin, Lieberman, Lincoln, Moynihan, Murray, Reed (R.L), Reid (Nev.), Robb, Rockefeller, Sarbanes, Schumer, Torricelli and Wyden.


REPUBLICANS AGAINST(1): Shelby.

DEMOCRATS AGAINST(7): Boxer, Bryan, Dorgan, Feingold, Harkin, Mikulski and Wellstone.

NOT VOTING: 2

REPUBLICANS (2): Fitzgerald (voted present) and {{{{MCCAIN}}}}

To cut to the chase 52 Repubs & 38 Demos voted for it. 1 Repub and 7 Demos voted against it. 2 Repubs didn't vote either yay or nay.

In short, it was passed overwhelmingly by both parties.

But don't let history bother you... go on being wrong.

Oh, yeah.... one other thing: Go ahead, be a maroon. Vote for Obama or McCain and get a longer, fatter Federal Nanny State shoved up your axe.

Unless you're smart enough to vote Libertarian, that is.

What? You say the Libertarians can't win?

If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right.    Henry Ford

[midnight Target]

Yet the current economy is all due to the Dem congress... funny stuff.

[midnight Target]

Yes, it was entirely the Republicans fault! Burn the witches!!

Who sponsored the bill Toad?