A-26 Invader

[glock89]

  You got the B-25J with a 75mm gun that do it. Ask me USA doesn't need really any more planes to be added maybe later on but the Axis need them more.

[Rich46yo]

Yeah exactly what we need, another plane that some clown can up with the sole purpose of ruining a running tank battle.  That said I am all in favor of it being added but with a goodly perk price. 

As compared to what? 48,000 lb 3somes of LancStukas already dropping on tanks battles and CVs  like use once and throw away pampers daipers?

Or my all time favorite. The fire and forget JU-torpedo express. Why would anyone risk perk points when the same stupidity can be accomplished with free airplanes?

[TwinEng]

The only thing that this plane has to contend with in the wish list is the HE-111. How could that be prejudice twords bombers?

Again, you are also totally missing the point here.   Many Buff pilots like myself want another perk option other than the lame Arado 234.   Tell me, how often do you even see folks flying the Arado????

The HE-111 is a most mediocre plane.   It is quite slow, and can only carry 2,000 kg of bombs.   It is totally inferior to the JU 88 that replaced it.   What is there to get excited about??

I agree that the HE-111 would be a great plane to have for flying historical scenarios.   And I'm certainly not against adding it for that very reason.   But to be frank, that is the only time that it would ever be used.   No one would ever choose it in normal game play over either the JU 88 or the B-26.   It would clearly be the least flown bomber.

So while I agree that the HE-111 would be good to add, I'm extremely confident that demand for the A-26 is far, far higher.   It thus should get priority.

There was no perk to fly it in Air Warrior.   I thus flew it all the time.

Do you and Glock even fly Buffs in the game??  I sort of doubt it from the comments you have both made.

The A-26 would be an NOE attack bomber from Hell.   It could keep up well in speed with fighters while flying in the mission ( totally unlike other current medium bombers ), and then deliver a punishing payload on a base or a town.   To me, it would be a perfect no-brainer solution to the current lack of perk bombers.

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[glock89]

A-26 should be added later not now later to many Allies mostly USA planes be added to HTC so far so it only fair for the Axis 2 get the B-29. If Allies get the A-26 then you want the B-29 then the P-40N would be added. You see were im going with this. He-111 Do-17 Do-217 Me-410 Ki-45 and Fiat G 50 Fait G 55 need to be added before the A-26 etc etc.   

[TwinEng]

A-26 should be added later not now later to many Allies mostly USA planes be added to HTC so far so it only fair for the Axis 2 get the B-29. If Allies get the A-26 then you want the B-29 then the P-40N would be added. You see were im going with this. He-111 Do-17 Do-217 Me-410 Ki-45 and Fiat G 50 Fait G 55 need to be added before the A-26 etc etc.   

Most people playing this game are not into the Axis vs Allies thing.   At least that is what I have observed so far.  What percentage of Aces High II squads exclusively fly planes of just one side??

You need to stop fighting WWII, and enjoy flying all the various planes.

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[glock89]

Most people playing this game are not into the Axis vs Allies thing.   At least that is what I have observed so far.  What percentage of Aces High II squads exclusively fly planes of just one side??

You need to stop fighting WWII, and enjoy flying all the various planes.

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We need more then just Allies types of planes in here you know that every 1 know that. Me-410 would be great to have same with the A-26 but it need 2 be even out USA got 9 bombers while the Axis only really got 3. Do you see the A-26 would be great after it even out here.

[TwinEng]

We need more then just Allies types of planes in here you know that every 1 know that.

Again, most folks playing this game are not continuing to fight the war, and thus use a mixture of planes from different nations.   And that is a fact.

What bombers do you currently fly in the game, and why do you choose to use them?   How would adding the HE-111 improve your gaming experience in any way at all??

Most of the planes that you listed are not even bombers.   You are totally ignoring the fact that bomber pilots have no decent perked planes to fly.   That is the reason why the A-26 should be added.

Does anyone know if the programmers that created Aces High II are the same people that programmed Air Warrior???

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[SoonerMP]

And just what are these uber effective axis bombers you speak of? Last time I checked the Allies always had the superior bombers of WWII. Get it through your thick skull, there are no worth while axis bombers that will effect the game (minus the He-111 which I aslo want just to be able to fly).

[Yossarian]

We need more then just Allies types of planes in here you know that every 1 know that. Me-410 would be great to have same with the A-26 but it need 2 be even out USA got 9 bombers while the Axis only really got 3. Do you see the A-26 would be great after it even out here.

Why does it 'need' to be?

You got the B-25J with a 75mm gun that do it. Ask me USA doesn't need really any more planes to be added maybe later on but the Axis need them more.

And it's the B-25H that has the 75mm in it (at least in the game).  Despite my habit of taking on fighters in my B-25H, I do not consider it a perkable aeroplane largely due to the fact that most people have no hope in it versus many fighters.

Of course there was that silly Seafire that HO'ed me....


TwinEng, no I do not think they are the same programmers.  I think some members of HTC may have been involved in WarBirds, but I'm not at all sure about that.

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Yossarian

[glock89]

Again, most folks playing this game are not continuing to fight the war, and thus use a mixture of planes from different nations.   And that is a fact.

What bombers do you currently fly in the game, and why do you choose to use them?   How would adding the HE-111 improve your gaming experience in any way at all??

Most of the planes that you listed are not even bombers.   You are totally ignoring the fact that bomber pilots have no decent perked planes to fly.   That is the reason why the A-26 should be added.

Does anyone know if the programmers that created Aces High II are the same people that programmed Air Warrior???

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All you want is some GV killing plane but what the people like me who want a Axis plane to be added? Really look at this You the B-17 B-24 B-25 3 different types B-26 plus the P-39 witch wasn't added that long ago Do you see there alot more planes that need to be added. HTC has a lot of USA planes and bombers but the axis really don't You know what would be a great GV killer the Hs-129 oh but wait it German so you think it crap I would fly it and the A-26 it they were added. 

[TwinEng]

All you want is some GV killing plane but what the people like me who want a Axis plane to be added? Really look at this You the B-17 B-24 B-25 3 different types B-26 plus the P-39 witch wasn't added that long ago Do you see there alot more planes that need to be added. HTC has a lot of USA planes and bombers but the axis really don't You know what would be a great GV killer the Hs-129 oh but wait it German so you think it crap I would fly it and the A-26 it they were added. 

Now Glock you are putting words into my mouth.  I really resent this dishonest approach that you are taking here.   I never said any such thing about killing GV's    Those comments were made by others in this thread, not me.   First, you don't respond to any of my questions that I ask you.   So you are obviously not willing to engage in an honest dialogue.  Then, you now make up a totally false claim here that I want the plane for GV killing, and also say untrue things in the other thread here in this forum about my wanting to have the B-29.   Why are you making up such fabrications and saying things about me that you have no reason to believe are true???

If you were actually carefully reading what I have said about the Invader, you would see that I already stated here in this thread that I see it as an awesome attack plane for attacking bases and towns.   You are either being extremely negligent in reading my posts, or you are deliberately trying to confuse matters.

However, in reality, it is apparently you who is confused here.   Unless, of course, you are deliberately making up your untrue statements about what I have said.

I've repeatedly made my case for why the Invader should be added.   Please go back and read my earlier posts.

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[KTM520guy]

+1 for the A26.

I think the A26 would actually get used in game. Glock's HE-111 would just sit in the hanger.

[cobia38]

Yeah exactly what we need, another plane that some clown can up with the sole purpose of ruining a running tank battle.  That said I am all in favor of it being added but with a goodly perk price. 

  I promise if we get A26 i will never ever hunt gvs with it. it will be used exclusivly for fighter pawnage 


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[Rich46yo]

Formations of A-26s would be lethal on CVs. A strike bomber 70 mph faster then 26s carrying 2,000lb of extra ords? Able to climb to alt so much faster? Certainly as fast as the KI-67. Already B-26s in the right hands are lethal against CVs but the A-26 would be doubly so.

It might actually force guys to fly CAP over CVs to protect them, much as it was done during the war itself. As a perked bomber the A-26 would be a success and without the accompanying whining and sniveling of a B-29 coming on-Line.

Highly perked 29s, only able to up from the 3 major fields, would hardly make a dent in the game, "other then reinvigorating bomber squadrons".

[glock89]

Now Glock you are putting words into my mouth.  I really resent this dishonest approach that you are taking here.   I never said any such thing about killing GV's    Those comments were made by others in this thread, not me.   First, you don't respond to any of my questions that I ask you.   So you are obviously not willing to engage in an honest dialogue.  Then, you now make up a totally false claim here that I want the plane for GV killing, and also say untrue things in the other thread here in this forum about my wanting to have the B-29.   Why are you making up such fabrications and saying things about me that you have no reason to believe are true???

If you were actually carefully reading what I have said about the Invader, you would see that I already stated here in this thread that I see it as an awesome attack plane for attacking bases and towns.   You are either being extremely negligent in reading my posts, or you are deliberately trying to confuse matters.

However, in reality, it is apparently you who is confused here.   Unless, of course, you are deliberately making up your untrue statements about what I have said.

I've repeatedly made my case for why the Invader should be added.   Please go back and read my earlier posts.

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Why don't you stop fighting this war and let some axis planes be added.