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Offline Yossarian

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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #120 on: October 05, 2008, 11:52:53 AM »
A-26 is ok with me but we don't need it now.

We don't need anything (either now, or at any point), but there is an extremely strong case for the A-26 to be the next bomber aircraft to be added, largely for the perked bomber issue, and for all the other reasons given in this thread.
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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #121 on: October 05, 2008, 11:55:38 AM »
We don't need anything (either now, or at any point), but there is an extremely strong case for the A-26 to be the next bomber aircraft to be added, largely for the perked bomber issue, and for all the other reasons given in this thread.
A-26 love to see with the Hs-129 to it only fair.
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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #122 on: October 05, 2008, 12:03:13 PM »
I just looked up the Hs-129, and from what I saw it seems that it would not fill the perked-bomber role at all (if that's what you're suggesting it for), partly because of it's speed being a maximum of 253 mph, and when the 75mm gun was added to it, it was described like this (from Wikipedia, I know...):

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The resulting system was able to knock out any tank in the world, but the weight slowed the already poor performance of the plane to barely flyable in this new Hs 129 B-3 version.
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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #123 on: October 05, 2008, 12:07:11 PM »
there is an extremely strong case for the A-26 to be the next bomber aircraft to be added, largely for the perked bomber issue, and for all the other reasons given in this thread.

Not when we're running the BoB without the He 111.  End of story.
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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #124 on: October 05, 2008, 12:53:36 PM »
HE-111 will never make it in time for the BoB scenario. At least this time around.

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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #125 on: October 05, 2008, 12:54:44 PM »
Not when we're running the BoB without the He 111.  End of story.

I agree that the He-111 has great historical significance, but I still think that its potential use in Aces High is quite low.  The He-111 really has no attributes whatsoever which would allow it to become a remotely popular aeroplane outside of historical scenarios, which despite being immense fun, only run a few times a year (if that much), and are only attended by a fraction of the player-base.

EDIT: and I agree with what SoonerMP said as well.
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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #126 on: October 05, 2008, 12:57:20 PM »
I agree that the He-111 has great historical significance, but I still think that its potential use in Aces High is quite low.  The He-111 really has no attributes whatsoever which would allow it to become a remotely popular aeroplane outside of historical scenarios, which despite being immense fun, only run a few times a year (if that much), and are only attended by a fraction of the player-base.

EDIT: and I agree with what SoonerMP said as well.

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Offline Yossarian

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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #127 on: October 05, 2008, 01:19:35 PM »
Ever heard of FSO?

Yes I have, and although I have never taken part in one, I am reasonably certain that if the He-111 were to be added, the CMs would not change every FSO to include He-111s.  Sure, that plane would then be able to participate in them, but it would not be in every single one.  In addition to this, your average Aces High player would likely be far happier to fly in a 300+ mph late war bomber, than in a ~200mph early/mid bomber that had a maximum bombload less than that of the Ju-87.

I would think that when looking at the current plane set, in terms of substituting aircraft, it is far easier to substitute a Ju-88 for an He-111 that it would be to substitute something for an A-26.
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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #128 on: October 05, 2008, 02:18:12 PM »
I would think that when looking at the current plane set, in terms of substituting aircraft, it is far easier to substitute a Ju-88 for an He-111 that it would be to substitute something for an A-26.
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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #129 on: October 05, 2008, 02:22:27 PM »
You're about as wrong as wrong can get. Just FYI.

Ok fine, I was sort of grabbing at nothing in particular there, but the rest of the points (especially those in the original post) still stand.
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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #130 on: October 05, 2008, 02:43:54 PM »


In that way, the game does represent history...

Not our fault that the axis kept producing outdated aircraft till the end of the war...



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 Someone needs to read a history book or two.....
 The axis had the most advanced aircraft designs,lucky for us the means to produce them was being destroyed before they could implement them.

 Take alook at what Me,FW,Ju,ect had designed and in some cases actual prototypes built,not to mention the "Black projects" that could have changed things drastically.

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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #131 on: October 05, 2008, 02:59:01 PM »
I think we have enough US hardware in the game to last us a bit.  Time for some other nations to get some added loving.

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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #132 on: October 05, 2008, 03:03:42 PM »
I just looked up the Hs-129, and from what I saw it seems that it would not fill the perked-bomber role at all (if that's what you're suggesting it for), partly because of it's speed being a maximum of 253 mph, and when the 75mm gun was added to it, it was described like this (from Wikipedia, I know...):

Hs-129 was made 2 kill tanks that what it did just like the A-10 we have today.
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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #133 on: October 05, 2008, 04:56:18 PM »
Hs-129 was made 2 kill tanks that what it did just like the A-10 we have today.

Yes, but currently we have the Il-2 for killing tanks, as well as the A-20 and B-25H which also make very effective tank killers.

In addition, the Hs-129 would not really be suitable for a perked bomber, although its 75mm would be a good example of a perked loadout in my opinion.
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Re: A-26 Invader
« Reply #134 on: October 05, 2008, 07:17:55 PM »
Yes, but currently we have the Il-2 for killing tanks, as well as the A-20 and B-25H which also make very effective tank killers.

In addition, the Hs-129 would not really be suitable for a perked bomber, although its 75mm would be a good example of a perked loadout in my opinion.
It dosnet need the 75mm when it got 1 30mm 2 20mm 6mgs would just do.
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