The Dogs of War Frame 3 score

[Squire]

ALLIED

Single engined a/c: 105 kills for 210 pts

Twin engined a/c: 19 kills for  95 pts

124 kills for 305 pts

Ground targets: 751 pts

Total: 1056 pts

AXIS

Single engined a/c: 100 kills for 200 pts

Twin engined a/c: 14 kills for 70 pts

114 kills for 270 pts

Ground targets: 607 pts

Total: 877 pts

Air to air this was a very even frame (only 10 kills apart), with both sides protecting their bomber forces very well. The allies managed to pound the targets with more ordnance this frame and got the edge in ground points.

That concludes the FSO "The Dogs of War" I hope it was fun and provided an insight into the types of engagements the Eastern Front had in WW2.

[Odee]

Sans the discos, was a great last frame for the 49th and the Chicken Hawks.

 

[Damionte]

accept I ran into a mountain on the second hop of the night. Stupid mountain !

[Saxman]

It was a relatively short night for me. I was flying towards a squaddie (nose-on, with about 300yds separation off my right wing) who had an La-5 trailing him. I started a turn in behind the La. He saw me, and turned at the last second at put a single 20mm into my cockpit at about 90 degrees deflection. 

[Radener]

Im Sorry i shot your yak down betty, but your friends ganged me 5 on 1 at the end dont worry 

[Alpo]

I know discos were a problem but IMHO, no shows were a bigger factor for the Axis.  The defense lines (aside from 13MPG  for the turnout guys) were absolutely anemic in numbers.   It's no wonder the IL2s were able to blow through and lay waste to A30.

[TUK]

  Alpo.

I know discos were a problem but IMHO, no shows were a bigger factor for the Axis.  The defense lines (aside from 13MPG  for the turnout guys) were absolutely anemic in numbers.   It's no wonder the IL2s were able to blow through and lay waste to A30.

[Bino]

I know discos were a problem but IMHO, no shows were a bigger factor for the Axis.  The defense lines (aside from 13MPG  for the turnout guys) were absolutely anemic in numbers.   It's no wonder the IL2s were able to blow through and lay waste to A30.

I think the event design called for 45% Axis and 55% Allied.  The log from frame three shows that we came pretty close to hitting that mark:

Axis stats:
Pilots: 225  (46.1%)

Allies stats:
Pilots: 264  (53.9%)

Total:  489

[Alpo]

No complaints about the numbers, that's all part of the experience.  I'm talking about squads committing numbers to the event and not providing them which totally screws the CiC in the planning process.

[442w30]

From what I recall Alpo is correct. It seems that we had many squads that were below commitment (but not more than 2 under commitment levels) and then the discos largely hit the defensive squads even more. Bad luck there, but some of those squads didn't have much of a chance. In fact unless I missed it, one squad (defensive patrol) was a complete no-show.  They were defending 30 with another squad.  30 was annihilated.  The other squad was, JV44, a 4-6 commitment and showed up with 2 pilots, which is within FSO guidelines. But the loss of the entire other squad left only 2 defenders at 30. For the record, I thought JV44 fought well in light of the circumstances.   

Warloc, I have a question about objects targeted. Were there an equal number of objects available to be destroyed by both sides?  Axis only had three valid targets, Troops and 2 Abases.  Allies had 4 targets, Radar and three Abases- (If I remember right). 

[shreck]

I know discos were a problem but IMHO, no shows were a bigger factor for the Axis.  The defense lines (aside from 13MPG  for the turnout guys) were absolutely anemic in numbers.   It's no wonder the IL2s were able to blow through and lay waste to A30.

Stupid P39 was a much bigger handycap for the allies!!   what a piece of crap! 

[shreck]

Stupid P39 was a much bigger handycap for the allies!!   what a piece of crap! 
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Really loved the part where our P39-Ds were suppose to escort Bostons 4 sectors to target!    I'm still tryin to catch them Bostons lol !

Umm on climb out the Bostons were leaving us in the dust ! and they were heavy   

[TUK]

As a 3 year player, I enjoy, and look forward to FSO's. I stack my squad (13TH MPG=DFA-AIR MAFIA-13 Midwest Pilot Group) with in the MA. I  enjoy the planning,  e-mails , and prep for fridays.  The 13th respect all cic's from all sides.

We can all b1tch about numbers, and disco's after the fact, but i think that Fso's are made by the men and women that enter on both sides.   I like the rules, and the 1 life of fso's , the H-tech staff and the cic's do alot of work, so lets appreciate them..    
 
Thanks Special Events............            Tuk151     Co 13th MPG

[Squire]

No, I had the Axis in a more defensive role in this setup, they had 4 targets to defend and 3 targets to attack, per frame. Now, you have to throw in the variables of: its easier to CAP than attack, the quality differences in the a/c, and the ratios of the sides in all that. I really tried to make it a fair contest, but its never easy to do. There are discos, side commit levels, and other factors that may skew it (and almost always do).

In the end, this is what you have to realise about FSO scoring. Its done to give both sides a "purpose" (which is vital to do), but its entirely secondary to the event itself. Players should not obsess over "scores", and just try and have a good, immersive, fun FSO. That being said we do try and get it "balanced" but its a lot harder than you might think, as you can see from the scores in some past FSO designs. Its like trying to hit a moving target.

[Anaxogoras]

Stupid P39 was a much bigger handycap for the allies!!   what a piece of crap! 

It's interesting you mention this, as the only aircraft I saw defending allied targets were Yaks and P-39s, and the only time I saw La-5s they were in axis territory.  The idea seems to have been for the Yaks and 39s to use their 37mm cannon on the axis bombers, but they were way too slow at altitude for this to be more than a pipe dream, whereas La-5s would have had a real chance to intercept our JU88s at 16k ft last night.  The Yak-9T and P-39 were used for ground attack by the VVS, so I don't think the lack of performance at altitude was much of an issue.

Regardless, the allies won the event, so the alternative strategic use of aircraft worked just fine.