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Offline Donzo

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Biden: Time to be patriotic, part of the deal, time to jump in
« on: September 21, 2008, 12:58:42 PM »
That's right, it's time for all those rich people to step up and pay MORE than the 70% of the the total taxes collected.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCqgNWRjmAc&feature=related

It's the patriotic thing to do.

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Re: Biden: Time to be patriotic, part of the deal, time to jump in
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2008, 01:27:51 PM »
That's right, it's time for all those rich people to step up and pay MORE than the 70% of the the total taxes collected.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCqgNWRjmAc&feature=related

It's the patriotic thing to do.

What's the matter with that? Splain why the rich shouldn't pay their fair share?
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Re: Biden: Time to be patriotic, part of the deal, time to jump in
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2008, 01:48:08 PM »
What's the matter with that? Splain why the rich shouldn't pay their fair share?
How do you define 'fair'? If everyone pats same rate (i.e. 28%) If I make 200k, I pay 4X as much tax as someone who makes 50k....but THAT isn't 'fair'---what libs have been pointing us toward for years is said 200k evil-rich person paying MANY times beyond that, to the point where a family that makes 40k-50k pays no income tax at all, thus forcing the country to run off the backs of afore-mentioned 200k guys.

Does this phrase seem familiar? "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs ?"
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Re: Biden: Time to be patriotic, part of the deal, time to jump in
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2008, 01:58:52 PM »
I'd like there to be zero income tax, period.  It's not moral to tax achievement and productivity.  Land value, on the other hand, is mostly derived from the surrounding community, and therefore is fair to tax, imo.
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Re: Biden: Time to be patriotic, part of the deal, time to jump in
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2008, 02:13:14 PM »
What's the matter with that? Splain why the rich shouldn't pay their fair share?


The top 1% pay 40% of the total tax.

The top 10% pay 70% of the total.

That's not "fair"?

Should they pay 100%....would that be "fair" to you?

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Re: Biden: Time to be patriotic, part of the deal, time to jump in
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2008, 06:39:07 PM »
i want Charley Rangel to pay taxes on that $75,000 rental income he keeps forgetting to put on his tax return.

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Re: Biden: Time to be patriotic, part of the deal, time to jump in
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2008, 06:53:18 PM »
Oh, but ole Charley didn't know he was supposed to pay those taxes.

I guess being the Chairman of the Ways and Means Committee was taking up too much of his time to learn what the taxation laws are.

Wait, what does the Ways and Means Committee do again?

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Re: Biden: Time to be patriotic, part of the deal, time to jump in
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2008, 08:05:02 PM »
I don't make a lot of money. However, I sure don't want some one else's money who has worked weekends, week nights and untold hours. They've earned it, not me. Why should I get some one else's money when I'm spending my time playing games, drinking beer etc. while they work their tail off.

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Re: Biden: Time to be patriotic, part of the deal, time to jump in
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2008, 08:24:57 PM »
I love the "fairness" that comes with someone else telling me how much to pay, and they decide where it should go.

I love even more the growing number of people that are more willing to accept someone else telling them how much to pay with no say as to how it's spent.

Notice the bailouts?  Tax money right?  They are getting their money loaned back to them, or using their money so the government can take them over.  I wonder how they would be fairing if they were "allowed" to keep their money in the first place.

Biden, Patriots founded this country rejecting your type of taxation, hope you know what's in store for you.  You want patriotism?  Ok :)
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Re: Biden: Time to be patriotic, part of the deal, time to jump in
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2008, 08:29:02 PM »
What's the matter with that? Splain why the rich shouldn't pay their fair share?

Everyone should pay an equal share. 

That is not the case now.  The top 1% pay 40% of the taxes with the top 10% making up 70% of the taxes.  If Biden and Obama get into office, they will increase taxation on the wealthy further stifling economic growth in the US and pushing more business offshore.

Please research what you are discussing.  It has a tendency to make one look less like an uneducated fool.
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Re: Biden: Time to be patriotic, part of the deal, time to jump in
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2008, 09:18:05 PM »
How do you define 'fair'? If everyone pats same rate (i.e. 28%) If I make 200k, I pay 4X as much tax as someone who makes 50k....but THAT isn't 'fair'---what libs have been pointing us toward for years is said 200k evil-rich person paying MANY times beyond that, to the point where a family that makes 40k-50k pays no income tax at all, thus forcing the country to run off the backs of afore-mentioned 200k guys.

Does this phrase seem familiar? "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs ?"

That's Marxism correct?!

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/09/14/seeing_through_obamanomics/?p1=Well_MostPop_Emailed7

Here's a link to and editorial about the interview between O'Reilly and Barry

He's saying the same thing as Biden. Nothing like having a gun to your head and saying "tip the waitress".
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Re: Biden: Time to be patriotic, part of the deal, time to jump in
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2008, 09:51:25 PM »

The top 1% pay 40% of the total tax.

The top 10% pay 70% of the total.

That's not "fair"?

Should they pay 100%....would that be "fair" to you?

Your source?  Just curious.

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Re: Biden: Time to be patriotic, part of the deal, time to jump in
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2008, 09:56:47 PM »
Common knowledge. Taxpayer advocacy groups. Financial experts. Need more?

If so, just read the tax code. Or ask Charles Rangel. He's in charge of writing the code. And then evading it.
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Re: Biden: Time to be patriotic, part of the deal, time to jump in
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2008, 10:03:27 PM »
No need to get snippy CVH... I was just asking. :)

I found it online... thanks.
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Re: Biden: Time to be patriotic, part of the deal, time to jump in
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2008, 10:09:32 PM »
No need to get snippy CVH... I was just asking. :)

I found it online... thanks.

Not snippy, just light hearted sarcasm. Not really specifically direct at you, either.
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