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Offline Elfie

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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #45 on: September 24, 2008, 10:00:29 AM »
Handguns are not the issue, people are. There is no problem with handguns or any other gun. Try placing one (even loaded) on a table and wait for it to create a problem.

The only time a problem will occur is when a human being picks it up and uses it as a tool in a crime. The humans are the problem, not the gun itself. The gun is a tool that can be used for evil, good or simply recreational purposes.
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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #46 on: September 24, 2008, 10:03:06 AM »
Handguns are not the issue, people are. There is no problem with handguns or any other gun. Try placing one (even loaded) on a table and wait for it to create a problem.

The only time a problem will occur is when a human being picks it up and uses it as a tool in a crime. The humans are the problem, not the gun itself. The gun is a tool that can be used for evil, good or simply recreational purposes.
Nice quote off a blog
you have any original thoughts on the subject?

That is the same thing having been said for decades... still not a solution

And I bet all you did was read the one line
Any comment on the rest of the post?

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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #47 on: September 24, 2008, 10:03:40 AM »
The FACT is that Obama LIES about his position on the Second Amendment. He has never voted in support of the right of citizens to be armed. He has never done ANYTHING in support of the right of citizens to be armed. And yet he claims not to want to take away guns from citizens.

I've explained this clearly once, I'll do it again here.

IF Obama wins, it is likely that Democrats will attain a solid majority in Congress on his coat tails.

Not only is it LIKELY that a Congress with a solid majority of Democrats will at least attempt to enact more gun laws, it is almost a certainty, as it has happened nearly every time they have held a majority since the sixties.

Obama would not only not veto an attack on the Second Amendment in Congress, he'd jump at the chance to sign the bill.

Obama would be very likely to have the chance to appoint at least two, and as many as four United States Supreme Court Justices. Obama, given that opportunity, will certainly nominate liberal anti-gun candidates.

The Congress, with a solid Democrat majority, would jump at the chance to affirm those candidates Obama would nominate.

Under those circumstances, the Second Amendment and the gun rights of citizens would be in more danger than they have been in the history of this nation.
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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #48 on: September 24, 2008, 10:07:37 AM »
Nice quote off a blog
you have any original thoughts on the subject?

That is the same thing having been said for decades... still not a solution

And I bet all you did was read the one line
Any comment on the rest of the post?



Now we see. You are seeking a "solution" to a "problem". And rather than deal with the human root of the problem, you see gun laws as the solution. And yet you attempt to hide this stance by carefully disguising it behind a cloud of generalizations and ambiguity. Sort of like Obama. Not at all surprising.
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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #49 on: September 24, 2008, 10:09:58 AM »
Nice quote off a blog
you have any original thoughts on the subject?

That is the same thing having been said for decades... still not a solution

And I bet all you did was read the one line
Any comment on the rest of the post?



I didn't quote that from a blog, I made it up all by myself. Thank you very much.

I could care less about the rest of your post.  :D
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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #50 on: September 24, 2008, 10:11:02 AM »
In REALITY the Heller decision got within ONE vote..ONE. That was Kennedy. Failure would have been the end of the individual right to keep and bear arms. I'd say that is extremely close.

Then, in REALITY, you had the Mayor of DC ignore the SC ruling.

In REALITY the US House had to step in to try to get DC to follow an SC ruling. (See the National Capital Security and Safety Act, H.R. 6842)

In REALITY it is very clear that it will get VERY FAR if Obamessiah and a Democratically controlled House and Senate have a clear field to enforce their anti-gun viewpoint.

Obamessiah's entire legislative record is anti-gun. Indisputable.

That's the REALITY of it.
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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #51 on: September 24, 2008, 10:11:32 AM »
Factcheck.org FAILS on Obama and 2nd Amendment:
http://www.volokh.com/posts/1222201928.shtml

Recite party slogans all you like, Obaminions... The fact is Obama is a liar when it comes to his position on the 2nd amendment.
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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #52 on: September 24, 2008, 10:19:14 AM »
That's a fact. I keep at least 3 loaded firearms in my home at all times, plus 1 that I carry loaded in my truck at all times, and not one of them has ever jumped up all on it's own and tried to shoot me or anyone else.

What I find the most disturbing about the folks like Obama, Clinton, and Pelosi, that want to ban certain types of firearms, is the fact that they have NO clue what they are even talking about when it comes to those weapons. What I mean by that statement is they have no technical knowledge of how the weapons operate. They want to ban weapons because of how they look!? They want to ban semi automatic handguns!?  They just don't understand what it is they are saying. Here is a little news flash. There is no such thing as a semi auto handgun. You have revolvers and automatics. Automatics operate in a semi automatic mode of operation, but that isn't a class of weapon, but they would have you believe it is by the way they talk.

Point being, as a gun owner, and avid sport shooter, if someone wants to try and convince me that a ban on my weapons is a good idea, they better come to me with accurate knowledge on the subject, and be able to convince me they fully understand what it is they're trying to tell me. That has NEVER been the case though, so I fall back on my original position when dealing with extreamists that think gun bans, and anti gun views make sense, with my own brand or extreamism, and that is, you want them, come and try to take them from me personally.

I know enough about firearms to have a sensible and knowledgable conversation and debate about a whole slew of weapons, but it's going to take allot more than "they look evil, or it's a military style weapon, or guns are only made to kill people" to convince me that I should turn in my weapons.

Obama has voted for every gun control meassure that has crossed his desk with no regard to the Constitution or the 2nd Amendment. And he supposedly worked in Constitutional Law? Give me a break.
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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #53 on: September 24, 2008, 10:32:59 AM »
I didn't quote that from a blog, I made it up all by myself. Thank you very much.

I could care less about the rest of your post.  :D

lol

you go girl
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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #54 on: September 24, 2008, 10:36:06 AM »
so the reality as shown in all of these posts is
Gun control is the only issue that is important to republicans?

The republican party needs you... but as a whole really wish they didn't ... there are more important issues that need to be discussed and disected
and you still don't get it

Reality... it bites you in the A** when all you do is focus in one direction

and you still don't get it
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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #55 on: September 24, 2008, 10:36:40 AM »
lol

you go girl


Always gotta slip an insult in don't ya? :)
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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #56 on: September 24, 2008, 10:40:53 AM »
so the reality as shown in all of these posts is
Gun control is the only issue that is important to republicans?

The republican party needs you... but as a whole really wish they didn't ... there are more important issues that need to be discussed and disected
and you still don't get it

Reality... it bites you in the A** when all you do is focus in one direction

and you still don't get it


Protecting our rights and freedom is the most important thing to some of us here in the O'Club. That should come first for all of us as Americans. Everything else comes in a distant second. That is something I doubt you will ever get.

Go check up on history, the easiest and best way to completely control any given population is to remove their ability to defend themselves and to overthrow their government. It doesn't matter if the peoples tools were swords and spears or guns and bullets, take them away and the government has free rein to act in as evil a manner an the human mind can devise.
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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #57 on: September 24, 2008, 10:44:39 AM »
so the reality as shown in all of these posts is
Gun control is the only issue that is important to republicans?

The republican party needs you... but as a whole really wish they didn't ... there are more important issues that need to be discussed and disected
and you still don't get it

Reality... it bites you in the A** when all you do is focus in one direction

and you still don't get it


You don't get it. The reality is we have plebty of issue we can discuss and worry about. The fact that we keep bringing this one up is because it is a Constitutional right that you boy would love to see go away, and that makes it a hot topic issue.

Yes the economy is in the crapper, but the Constitution doesn't have anything to do with the economy.

Health Care is a big issue but it has nothing to do with the Constitution.

Plenty of other excamples I could point out but I hope you see the direction I'm going with this.

Of ALL the issues that need attention NONE, NONE require more serious attention that protecting our rights under the Constitution.

If you can't understand that, then who really has the problem of not getting it?
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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #58 on: September 24, 2008, 10:46:36 AM »
You don't get it. The reality is we have plebty of issue we can discuss and worry about. The fact that we keep bringing this one up is because it is a Constitutional right that you boy would love to see go away, and that makes it a hot topic issue.

Yes the economy is in the crapper, but the Constitution doesn't have anything to do with the economy.

Health Care is a big issue but it has nothing to do with the Constitution.

Plenty of other excamples I could point out but I hope you see the direction I'm going with this.

Of ALL the issues that need attention NONE, NONE require more serious attention that protecting our rights under the Constitution.

If you can't understand that, then who really has the problem of not getting it?

He'll just come back with a series of one liners, every other one being....and you still don't get it.....and then point to this post and complain that it is only one line.  :D
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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #59 on: September 24, 2008, 10:52:16 AM »
He'll just come back with a series of one liners, every other one being....and you still don't get it.....and then point to this post and complain that it is only one line.  :D

lol Elfie
your shorts are in a knot... you are the classic one liner.. too bad you need to copy my posts and claim them for your own..like i said before...get an original thought and express it..
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