sixpence I don't disagree with you at all, this is an issue that goes far beyond party lines or just the sub-prime fiasco. However, the immediate crisis is rooted in the sub prime and unsecured consumer debt security instruments. As much as we focus on the mortgage issue the years of "what's in your wallet" unleashed by the misguided changes to the BK laws are equally to blame IMO. While the underlying issues go back 2 decades the straws that broke the camels back are easily identifiable.