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Offline MjTalon

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Re: • [MoM] "Aluminum Overcast" AAR •
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2008, 02:39:52 PM »
Don't fly with that idiot! Who are you kidding? :)

<S> Talen, I've never had any more fun flying with you than anyone else. You know how to make the game come alive.

Hehe thanks spikes! I try sir, i try...  :salute

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Re: • [MoM] "Aluminum Overcast" AAR •
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2008, 02:49:50 PM »
 :rock most fun i've had on TT ever, even after flyin 4sectors somehow getting through the jug screen (which did a great job by the way  :salute) then deciding to go noob and attack the first buff i saw from the rear (you can guess that outcome).

big  :salute to all for who made it happen. this was what this game is all about :rock
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Re: • [MoM] "Aluminum Overcast" AAR •
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2008, 02:54:45 PM »
Zoozoo, why were you so low and separated from the rest of the bombers?  If found your B-17 single and low. :confused:


I was at the head of the pack, made it almost all the way to the strat.
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Re: • [MoM] "Aluminum Overcast" AAR •
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2008, 03:09:52 PM »
I have three pages of action points that will be
implemented the next go around.

You had your easy time with the bombers.
Based on what I have learned I can just about
guarantee you that things will be VERY different
next time.   :t

..if I can get enough people into bombers.  :pray

I need a copy of the TAGMA map.
Can anyone come to my rescue?
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Re: • [MoM] "Aluminum Overcast" AAR •
« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2008, 03:13:07 PM »
Delta well done.  thanks for the time and the effort.  Our Motley crew (TFC) changed to knights and upped with many many fine sticks at A89.

It was a Blast!

Again...well done Sir  :salute
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Re: • [MoM] "Aluminum Overcast" AAR •
« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2008, 03:22:56 PM »
Just got these from the film, in my film alone i totaled 9 262's shot down. And it was before rally point.








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Re: • [MoM] "Aluminum Overcast" AAR •
« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2008, 03:31:22 PM »
what I pesonaly liked was that you hear these tails form wwii about huge air battle and how every where you looked there were air craft and enemeys attacking form all directions, that looking around you would see planes falling out of the sky, parts of planes faling off, explosions, aircraft on flames, it was very fun, very fun to be in, I think even better would be to break down into even one more wing, and spread out a little, bu overall I really liked it, one massive front

even a historicly accurate counter attack mission plan could be organized on the other side, very fun.

in the end i have to say this was a great sucses!

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Re: • [MoM] "Aluminum Overcast" AAR •
« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2008, 03:40:14 PM »
It always fascinates me how the lessons of WW2 air combat apply directly to this sim.

Close escort never works .. engaging fighters will get a firing pass.. firing pass = bad.
Gotta be far enough out to engage before they see the buffs, ideally.

Sweeps are highly effective .. especially if they catch the interceptors climbing out :)
They should be timed to suppress an area before the buffs get there and be effective until the buffs leave.. this means staged, successive, sweeps :)

Buffs have to get formed up and get to raid alt before proceeding to target.. none of this climbout into the Abbeville boys :)
(buffs ideally should take off from several bases, as should fighters.. then form up at raid alt, then proceed to target at best cruise..
..reduces time in enemy territory, reduces enemy response times, adds confusion to enemy ie:'which way are they all going'  ..etc.)

Timing is everything.
Spits would cover first, then Jugs, then Stangs ..successive waves of escort-sweeps ..to clear the way for the buffs :)

When it works, it's like watching a Juggernaut ..a storm that blasts thru to a target, obliterates it, and blasts its way home.
You can follow the progress by the smoke plumes.

Awesome fun.

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Re: • [MoM] "Aluminum Overcast" AAR •
« Reply #38 on: October 22, 2008, 03:45:48 PM »
Oh .. something I learned from all the scenarios I was part of :

The guy you spend the longest time explaining things to will be the first one that gets totally lost and never seen again.

Keep it short, to the point, and press on :)

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Re: • [MoM] "Aluminum Overcast" AAR •
« Reply #39 on: October 22, 2008, 03:47:18 PM »
Hey there Delta, had a great time sir, i was a P47 assigned to Talens wing. Got 1 kill on a 152, we did our best to stay with the buffs. I took some damage from a 109 and had to rtb. As i turned to do same, i saw another 152 low figured id jump him and pair up the earlier kill. Big mistake that 152 driver saw me commin from miles away and set me up perfectly. All i can say is that i was thoroughly Stampf-ed out :D

Big <S> to Stampf and all the guys in JG 11

Thanks for all the effort Delta   :salute

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Re: • [MoM] "Aluminum Overcast" AAR •
« Reply #40 on: October 22, 2008, 04:00:00 PM »
The guy you spend the longest time explaining things to will be the first one that gets totally lost and never seen again.

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Re: • [MoM] "Aluminum Overcast" AAR •
« Reply #41 on: October 22, 2008, 04:08:33 PM »
zoozoo, can you send me those screencaps in their original form,
without the effects you added to them?

Man, you take the best screenies!

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Re: • [MoM] "Aluminum Overcast" AAR •
« Reply #42 on: October 22, 2008, 04:11:08 PM »
I would like to <S> my boss, MajTalen and all of the 78th FG! I want also to salute the 25th FW for their participation in the fighter escort as Juggernaut pilots! Awesome time! Hope to see another MoM mission again soon...

 :salute :salute :salute :salute
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Re: • [MoM] "Aluminum Overcast" AAR •
« Reply #43 on: October 22, 2008, 04:14:24 PM »
I am so sad I missed it.  I got off work too late.  I came on when everyone talking about it.

Anyhow,  I've been reading up WWII bombers escorts etc and from what I understand  the escorts were divided into groups of four each with a flight lead and assigned wingmen.  They then would criss cross x patterns above bombers always having a flight within a 1k of the bombers.  At least thats what Cpt Robert Goebel wrote in his book.

They also would rendezvous with the bombers at a certain alt and waypoint.

I have an idea for the game to make it easier to assign wingman and flight leads etc...  I'd pull up text buffer and assign in alphabetical order.  All the names are there and can be constantly reviewed.

Anyway my two cents.



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Re: • [MoM] "Aluminum Overcast" AAR •
« Reply #44 on: October 22, 2008, 04:15:12 PM »
Yep, can't wait for the next one. I gotta recruit a whole other batch of P47 pilots for this one.  :devil

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