Skuzzy, Have you built your new system?

[bj229r]

Well dang, after working flawlessly for 2 or so weeks, my old mobo/cpu REALLY died last night...wont even go into bios now. Was looking at a P5Q series with INTEL cpu this time, but I really didn't wanna have to splurge for new video card right now. (I have an AGP fx5700 card) Is AGP a thing of the past in the gaming world? Don't wanna spend money to accommodate a type of card that is otw out....

[BaldEagl]

Is AGP a thing of the past in the gaming world?

In and out of the gaming world.  Go with a PCIe X16 2.0 DDR3 (or higher) card.

[bj229r]

Lol that pretty much covers it

[Masherbrum]

Lol that pretty much covers it

BJ, I can RMA this 7900GT and have the RAM replaced, then give you the new one outright?   You want it?   It should run AH without a hitch and it'd save you some scratch.

[bj229r]

BJ, I can RMA this 7900GT and have the RAM replaced, then give you the new one outright?   You want it?   It should run AH without a hitch and it'd save you some scratch.

ding ding ding! I believe we have a winner Jay! I think I've picked out mobo/cpu (P5Q-E/Q6700.....400$ on Tiger) I THINK my 400 watt power supply can stay...it IS fairly new, though on the light side. Only have DDR1 on current box, so THAT has to go...Gotta approach the Shrew with all this in the AM (early Christmas present?? )

[Masherbrum]

ding ding ding! I believe we have a winner Jay! I think I've picked out mobo/cpu (P5Q-E/Q6700.....400$ on Tiger) I THINK my 400 watt power supply can stay...it IS fairly new, though on the light side. Only have DDR1 on current box, so THAT has to go...Gotta approach the Shrew with all this in the AM (early Christmas present?? )

cc that, I'll start the RMA process with eVga.

[bj229r]

Lol the Shrew hasn't spoken yet

[Getback]

ding ding ding! I believe we have a winner Jay! I think I've picked out mobo/cpu (P5Q-E/Q6700.....400$ on Tiger) I THINK my 400 watt power supply can stay...it IS fairly new, though on the light side. Only have DDR1 on current box, so THAT has to go...Gotta approach the Shrew with all this in the AM (early Christmas present?? )

BJ229, you don't need a quad core. Go dual core. My Humblest advice.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131296 147.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115036 190.00

                                                                                                  337.00

If I quote Skuzzy correctly quad cores can't be used to their full potential because of hardware limitations and because of software limitations too.

[Skuzzy]

There is more bang for the buck with a dual core CPU versus a quad core CPU, unless you are a professional video/audio editor.

Even I use video and audio tools quite a bit, but still went with the dual core CPU as it simply runs the applications faster than a quad core will.

Yes, there are benchmarks showing how wonderful quad core CPU's are, but that is just marketing noise.  The lower cost E8500 will eat the Q6700 alive, in virtually every real world application.  It also overclocks better.    Better yes, if you are into overclocking, then grab the E8200 for even less money and overclock it to blow away the Q6700.

[Getback]

There is more bang for the buck with a dual core CPU versus a quad core CPU, unless you are a professional video/audio editor.

Even I use video and audio tools quite a bit, but still went with the dual core CPU as it simply runs the applications faster than a quad core will.

Yes, there are benchmarks showing how wonderful quad core CPU's are, but that is just marketing noise.  The lower cost E8500 will eat the Q6700 alive, in virtually every real world application.  It also overclocks better.    Better yes, if you are into overclocking, then grab the E8200 for even less money and overclock it to blow away the Q6700.

see "What speed does your cpu run" thread

[bj229r]

Yah, I wasn't looking for a quad core, Tiger just happened to have a 400$ package with a P5Q-E.

[bj229r]

BJ229, you don't need a quad core. Go dual core. My Humblest advice.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131296 147.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115036 190.00

                                                                                                  337.00

If I quote Skuzzy correctly quad cores can't be used to their full potential because of hardware limitations and because of software limitations too.

Hmm...hadn't looked at Newegg, very nice deal there--thanks Getback

[TilDeath]

This is going t be my new rig  final parts should be here on Friday.  I have some screen shots of what I had and assembled on air.  This will be an H2O rig

You can see it http://wings-of-terror.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=70&Itemid=104

Parts List

    * NZXT Khaos case
    * eVGA 790i FTW Digital
    * eVGA 280 GTX (3 in Tri Sli)
    * Intel Q9650
    * OCZ DDR3 1800 FSB 2 x 2gb
    * Thermaltake Toughpower 1200 watt ps
    * Tagan 900 watt ps (for cooling systems)
    * LG 6x SATA Blu-Ray burners (2)
    * Western Digital Raptor 300gb (2 raid)
    * Western Digital 1tb SATA drives (2 raid)


Cooling system parts

    * Swiftech MCP350 Pump (Mosfet, NB, SB loop)
    * Swiftech MCP655 Pump (CPU, GPU's loop)
    * Swiftech MCR120 QP Radiator
    * Swiftech MCR220 QP Radiator
    * Swiftech MCRES-Micro Rev-2 Reservoir
    * Danger Den Single 5 1/4 Bay Reservoir
    * Koolance CPU-340 CPU Waterblock
    * Koolance MVR-40 Voltage Regulator Waterblock (Mosfet)
    * Koolance CHC-125 Northbridge Waterblock
    * Koolnace CHC-125 Southbridge Waterblock
    * 2 Enermax Everest Intake fans in front (12db max)(12db + second fan at 3db additional sound 15db total)
    * 2 Enermax Everest fans on Swiftech MCR220 QP (radiator cooling)(12db + second fan at 3db additional sound 15db total)
    * 1 NZXT 120mm fan on Swiftech MCR120 QP (radiator cooling)(18db)
    * 1 NZXT 160mm Fan on top blowhole (18db)


Plumbing

    * Feser 1/2 id 3/4 od tubing (CPU, GPUs) (about 10ft)
    * Feser 3/8 in 5/8 od tubing (Mosfet, NB, SB)


Fittings

    * 13 streight compression fittings
    * 3 45s compression fittings
    * 8 90s compression fittings

[BoilerDown]

There is more bang for the buck with a dual core CPU versus a quad core CPU, unless you are a professional video/audio editor.

Even I use video and audio tools quite a bit, but still went with the dual core CPU as it simply runs the applications faster than a quad core will.

Yes, there are benchmarks showing how wonderful quad core CPU's are, but that is just marketing noise.  The lower cost E8500 will eat the Q6700 alive, in virtually every real world application.  It also overclocks better.    Better yes, if you are into overclocking, then grab the E8200 for even less money and overclock it to blow away the Q6700.

Just did this myself, last night actually, even though I'm in the middle of editing a WoW video (before I quit that game for good, I want to finish my long-time project of making my video).  My motherboard supports the new 45nm CPUs, so I just flashed the latest bios, popped my old E4300 out and swapped it with an E8500.  No reason to pay the same or more for a quad when the only thing I do regularly that stresses my computer is play these games.

I bought a nice cheap motherboard as well:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138075 for my old E4300 to go into, along with 4 gigs of DDR2, to replace my current secondary computer, which is right now a P4 2.8, and is very much showing its age.  My secondary computer never gets OC'd, its just there to be reliable for when I push the main a bit too far.  Also Sony Vegas supposedly can off-load work to a second computer, and I'm gunna see how well that works  .

By the way, even running XP-32bit, I don't see a good reason NOT to get 4 gigs of DDR2 (even if only 3gigs can be used), the stuff is so dang cheap right now.

[Getback]

All looks good to me Boiler.