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Offline flatiron1

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what to expect
« on: October 26, 2008, 10:47:31 PM »
thinking about getting CH fighter stick and rudder pedals. Other than lasting longer and having more buttons what should I eepect over my current logitech extreme 3d pro twisty stick.

What about the Pro throttle is it worth the extra money.


How durable are the pedals?

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Re: what to expect
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2008, 06:38:23 AM »
CH lasts forever, I've had mine for years. I don't know about the logitech stick so I can't compare, but here are my comments...

CH stick, has medium spring set. Microsoft sticks are much softer to move, but thrustmaster is stiffer. Only logitech stick I ever touch was years ago, but if I remember right it was on the soft side. So the movement may be a bit stiffer than your use to. If your a "smooth on the stick" type of flyer you may never notice.

CH pedals, I have the "Pros" rudder movement is sliding back and forth, with the "toe brakes" with a "gas pedal" type movement. In my simpit I had to add a piece of wood to angle the set a bit. This is only due to the seat being a low seat. Sitting in a chair should give you the height to work them with out tilting them. Expect to take a few weeks to get use to flying using your feet, but once you get it, it is much better than a twisty stick.

CH Throttle, I think if you can afford it, get them. I have had to do some traveling over the last few months for work, and most hotel don't like you hauling simpits into their rooms. While the company laptop does play Aces, I've been forced to use a Saitek "twisty" stick. It has taken me weeks to get the rudder tuned half decent, and I am no where as accurate with my rudder use as I am with my pedals. I also loose track of the enemy with the twisty as there are just not enough buttons. With my throttle the added buttons mean my hands only leave the controls to type a message out, or take a gulp of beer. Even throttle control is much harder with the twisty. Right hand controls the stick and the buttons on it, left hand controls the throttle and buttons on the base. Its tuff hitting flaps AND working the throttle while controling the plane with the other hand on the twisty.

While I can fly with a twisty stick, I can't wait to get home and fly with my CH stuff.

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Re: what to expect
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2008, 08:32:41 PM »
Almost total deterioration of your game( with you second guessing the reason for forking out such a lot of money) for a big of the first tour with gradual increases of specialness for the next and then there will be no going back. Same with the pedals from a twisty, try get the pedals at the same time. I only have the X-52 with the CH pedals but just the fact that you have to re-learn which button does what means there will be a few oops's going on.

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Re: what to expect
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2008, 08:02:10 AM »
Flatiorn, I bought CH stuff a couple years ago.  I never could get the hang of the rudder pedals.  Then on top of it, there was a malfunction in them.  Brakes wanted to stay on.  Irritating.  Some fixes were posted on the BBS, but nothing I wanted to piddle with.  In addition to the brakes, there were other issues too.  I don't recall them. 

Maybe there was a conflict someplace.  I really don't know.  At the time, I wasn't playing AH much, so I gave the whole lot the heave ho.

I'm back to a twisty stick.  Much easier.

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Re: what to expect
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2008, 11:23:26 AM »
ok if I just get rudders for now how will that work with a twisty stick. will the rudders overule the twisty or will I have use of both or what.

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Re: what to expect
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2008, 11:26:23 AM »
ok if I just get rudders for now how will that work with a twisty stick. will the rudders overule the twisty or will I have use of both or what.

You simply go into "map controllers" and move the Z-axis control from the twisty part of your stick to your pedals.  Easy to do.

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Re: what to expect
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2008, 12:31:22 PM »
ok if I just get rudders for now how will that work with a twisty stick. will the rudders overule the twisty or will I have use of both or what.

I would go for the new stick set first. Rudder pedals are a nice extra if you can have them but the stick you have can make a difference in your experience here, it has for me. 

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Re: what to expect
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2008, 12:58:15 PM »
ok going to make the leap just one other question.
If I buy direct from CH each set is 149.00.  Amazon and several others have what appears to be the same thing for 100:00. Any reason anyone knows of not to go with Amazon. plus get free shipping where CH wants 25:00.

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Re: what to expect
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2008, 01:01:02 PM »
ok going to make the leap just one other question.
If I buy direct from CH each set is 149.00.  Amazon and several others have what appears to be the same thing for 100:00. Any reason anyone knows of not to go with Amazon. plus get free shipping where CH wants 25:00.

Make certain you aren't buying Used components from Amazon.

When I bought my Saitek Pedals, Dell.com was selling them for $89.00.  Two weeks later, I was on the site looking at the stick/throttle combos and noticed the Pedals had jumped up to $129.  So, apparently there are occaisionally "special" prices.  Either that or I really lucked out and got my pedals at a "mistake" price that was soon corrected.

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Re: what to expect
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2008, 01:11:39 PM »
well it says new

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Re: what to expect
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2008, 01:13:15 PM »

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Re: what to expect
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2008, 05:53:23 PM »
I bought mine at Provantage. As you can see each piece is under $100, and they are all new.

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Re: what to expect
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2008, 10:56:47 PM »
Same as fugitive and no problems with Provantage. If you can get all three you wont be disappointed. I had my analog for years till XP came out and know have usb never no problems with mine.
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Re: what to expect
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2008, 12:47:55 AM »
Go for it.  I love my CH stuff.  I've had the same combatstick for 11 years and it still works.  Pedals are a must.
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Re: what to expect
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2008, 07:21:14 AM »
Have to agree with the others about PROVANTAGE.  Prices good and they are reputable.  I purchased all of my CH stuff there.  CH lasts "forever"!  :aok


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