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Offline AWwrgwy

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Re: 8 year old at a gun show
« Reply #75 on: December 05, 2008, 01:50:45 PM »
It not a matter of CAlIBER.  I have had guns and would never hand one of my childern a loaded gun.  Especially an eight year old.  Dumb!! 
My children and I all have black belts in Taekwondo and compete regulary.  We get hurt all the time.  I hardly find any similarity between that and handing a small child a loaded gun.  We compete in a sport, no sport in handing a child a gun.
This is not an anti gun issue.  It is an issue whether or not this child should have had this gun in the first place.  PERIOD. 


What he said.  It's not the gun, or really even the age.  It's training.  What to expect when you fire.  Would you let an untrained 20 year old, never been in a car, drive?

I'm also flabbergasted by all the youtube videos of "I'm going to let my girlfriend fire my Desert Eagle/Mossberg Shotgun and laugh when the kick hurts her".  It's Darwinian at best.


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Re: 8 year old at a gun show
« Reply #76 on: December 05, 2008, 02:03:42 PM »
I think what he is trying to say is that an AK would be easier controlled by a little kid who most likely had no wrist strength. Your whole body s used to stabilize the weapon, not just your arms, therefore the chances of it jumping out of his hands and killing him or others is less.

I own an AK-47, I weigh 180lbs, and the force from bump-firing is enough to push me off balance. I'm sure a FA AK would deliver the same results to an 8 year old.
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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Re: 8 year old at a gun show
« Reply #77 on: December 05, 2008, 05:17:09 PM »
Nef do you say that it would just as easy to rotate the ak as to shoot yourself in the head as the uzi?
I would have thought worst case scenario with the AK would be the boy falls over and drops the weaon with brusing to the ribs. Possibly hit someone else before himself. Maybe at a long stretch shot himself in the foot as he fell over.

Its obvious, letting a small child fire an ak47 is madness, I was simply stating that and uzi was that much more stupid again.
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Re: 8 year old at a gun show
« Reply #78 on: December 05, 2008, 07:09:42 PM »
Maybe they should give 8 year old a rocket launcher instead. He will make a good Al - Qaida. Borat likes.

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Re: 8 year old at a gun show
« Reply #79 on: December 05, 2008, 07:51:12 PM »
Nef do you say that it would just as easy to rotate the ak as to shoot yourself in the head as the uzi?
I would have thought worst case scenario with the AK would be the boy falls over and drops the weaon with brusing to the ribs. Possibly hit someone else before himself. Maybe at a long stretch shot himself in the foot as he fell over.

Its obvious, letting a small child fire an ak47 is madness, I was simply stating that and uzi was that much more stupid again.

Oh... Don't worry I agree. The fact that the child was allowed to shoot an Uzi was insane.

I'm not claiming I'm an expert just because I own an AK, anything could possibly happen when you hand a child a full auto weapon. I might envision the child spinning around the possibly spraying the observers, which could have happened with the Uzi, it's hard to tell. The fact the AK is larger may have allowed an 8 year old to hold the rifle while losing his balance, possibly afraid to let go.
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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Re: 8 year old at a gun show
« Reply #80 on: December 06, 2008, 04:28:47 AM »
      Let see things that an 8 year old might do that would be considered "sporting". Tree climbing, surfing, skateboarding, bike riding, swimming, and go karting is just a quick list of things kids would do around that age. The FACT is more kids die doing these activities than of accidental firearm related sporting events. I discount intentional acts for a number of reasons but the first being that there is no reasonable hope of totally eliminating the threat and most people are focusing on the fact that it was preventable. How many people want to ban Clorox because a kid was poisoned? How about swimming at the beach? Not many if any at all. I will say it again......all ACCIDENTAL deaths are preventable. Question is what are the real threats to kids? Guns dont come near the top of the list. So when did you call your local Congressman to stop these kids from swimming or taking a bike ride? What about those poisoned or burned with hot water?Those my friend are FAR more riskier propositions in terms of accidental deaths and all PREVENTABLE.

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Thats a retarded statement. How often does an 8 year old climb a tree versus how often does an 8 year old fire an uzi. I'd guarantee if you compared the accident rate of deaths per uzi fired versus deaths per tree climbed the uzi would be very high.

How many of those 'sporting' events use equipment specifically designed to kill? Skateboards? No. Surfboards? No. Bikes? No. Go Karts? No.

Do these sporting events aim for high levels of safety? Are kids told to wear knee/pads head protection skateboard? Yes. Helmets biking? Yes. Life jackets board sailing? Yes. Helmets go karting? Yes.

Take the patch of your eye and start looking at this with a little reality.

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Re: 8 year old at a gun show
« Reply #81 on: December 06, 2008, 09:28:21 AM »
How many of those 'sporting' events use equipment specifically designed to kill?

fencing, archery, javelin.