which planes would make an actual impact?

[hubsonfire]

The TBM is quite capable, thank you very much. Well, against 109s anyway.

[Ack-Ack]

Ki-45.  Think of it as the Jap Bf110G-6 (or close to it).

The Ki-45 was outclassed by single engine fighters as was shown when the Flying Tigers mauled them over Guilin and again when P-40s chewed them up over Hanoi.

This is what McGuire had to say about the Nick.

The only Japanese fighter which can be outmaneuvered by a P-38 is the twin engine Nick. When pursuing or pursued you must keep to the shallow dive, climb, or turn because there is not a trick maneuver in the book that can't be done better in a Japanese plane than in a P-38. In making passes, hold your lead in deflection as long as you can, but just as soon as you lose that lead, roll out of the turn and keep going straight. Never pull up beyond 30 degrees when pursuing, because your loss of speed will permit the Japanese pilot to loop over onto your tail. Break combat when it is to your advantage to do so, don't wait until you set yourself up in such a position that the Japanese pilot will have the advantage. Make him fight on your terms, don't fight on his.

There haven't been many of these twin-engine fighters in this area and with their poor performance they are becoming scarcer as P-38 pilots and others prove that this is one Japanese fighter they can out-turn, out-run, and out-climb. The NICK is structurally strong and there will be some difficulty in diving away, but then it won't be necessary unless he gets close on your tail.

ack-ack

[humble]

Except for the ability to carry a torpedo, and be the only capable strike aircraft in game with the ability of carrying a torpedo you mean?

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Actually the A-20 could carry 2 (normal loadout was 1 torp and extra gas tank in bomb bay).

[humble]

The TBM is quite capable, thank you very much. Well, against 109s anyway.

Yes it is and so is the SBD, but neither has cannon for deacking. The Grace is faster and has 2 x 20mm vs the 2 x .50 on the TBM.

[humble]

As ack-ack already pointed out the ki-45 is inferior to what we already have. I'm curious what planes beyond the 3 I mentioned might actually expand or upgrade game play. The g.55 will replace the 109 for a lot of pilots I think (especially the guys who like the f-4/g-2 or cant hit with the 30mm). The Tu-2 has a greater bomb load then a B-17 + 20mm and A-20 type air to air potential and the grace gives a carrier based "bomber" option with superior speed, 20mm for deacking and air to air capability on par with the TBM...

[BigPlay]

Beaufighter seems like it would be another suitable dumptruck.

I agree that it would make a good all around addition. I wouldn't mind seeing the Ki45 Nick either. Both would fill the fighter bomber role very nice.

[Furball]

Actually the A-20 could carry 2 (normal loadout was 1 torp and extra gas tank in bomb bay).

Interesting.. source? Ruskies use it operationally?

Anyways, so could the B-26.  But it doesn't in AH.

And the Beaufighter hopefully would.  Thus adding a niche role for it and adding more to gameplay than the 110 and Mossie currently deliver which was your original reason to it not being added. 

Think how much fun the 4 x 20mm and 4 x 50cal of an aussie Mk 21 would be too.

Yes it is and so is the SBD, but neither has cannon for deacking. The Grace is faster and has 2 x 20mm vs the 2 x .50 on the TBM.

I think he is joking and referring to an incident in the DA.

[Masherbrum]

I.A.R. 81c

[Furball]

Also from a strictly gaming point of view, something like an armed troop transport like the Armstrong Whitworth Albemarle would add a fair bit i think.  Or Halifax glider tug.  Not sure of types used by other nations - but sure they had them.

Other than adding new weapons along with the introduction of aircraft, i don't think there is a type which would drastically change gameplay.  Something like a Do-217 or HE-177 with Fritz anti ship missiles would be a cool perk bomber and very different from the norm.

[Sikboy]

As many know, I usually toss out the D4Y. But this thread, being dedicated to MA impact, gets a pass on my Judy ranting. Instead,

Yak-9UT. The same motor as the Yak-9U, but with a gun so big you can almost [edit] it!

-Sik

[BigPlay]

The Ki-45 was outclassed by single engine fighters as was shown when the Flying Tigers mauled them over Guilin and again when P-40s chewed them up over Hanoi.

This is what McGuire had to say about the Nick.

ack-ack

always thinking fighters.

[uptown]

The F18 has made a big impact in the resent past 

[Ack-Ack]

always thinking fighters.

That's what the Ki-45 was designed as, a heavy fighter. 


ack-ack

[Karnak]

Ki-102 and Ki-44 might make a impact in the MA if you are looking for IJAAF aircraft.

Talking IJNAF, the P1Y1 Ginga "Frances" might also make an impact and more than 1000 of those were built.

[1pLUs44]

Dont forget the solely made Aussie plane guys, the Commonwealth Boomerang