French Vehicles, please

[Bruv119]

screw the vehicles what about some French aircraft   .

I can think of 2 good additions.

[SmokinLoon]

The French lost because of their govt, not their military.  It was actually quite capable and it had the means to fend off the German invasion.

It is too bad their govt wouldnt back them up and listen to their military leaders.  Hence, by the time the French govt decided to try and help the BEF and Belgium it was all over for everyone on the mainland.

[Becinhu]

Plus French vehicles move in reverse faster than any other gvs do.....
sorry, couldn't resist.

[B4Buster]

i'll make my same joke as i did the last french vehicle post

how are you supposed to kill other gv's if the gun only shoots white flags?

erm...well us French people tan easy   

[Babalonian]

Especially when the guy that posted those comments is so ignorant that he doesn't realize that without the French there wouldn't be a U.S.


ack-ack

They did help us, but at the time I don't think any part of their strategy had to deal with favors coming around over a hundred years later to save their entire nation, twice.  At the time, we were their enemie's enemy (England), willing to do the hard and dirty work they wanted done (fighting the English), we were a very cheap resource to the French nation's own agenda.  To think that the French were there during our revolution for anything more than their own nation's agenda, that they were there solely for the sake of a fledgling nation's health, independence and freedom, is ignorant.

[E25280]

The French lost because of their govt, not their military.  It was actually quite capable and it had the means to fend off the German invasion.

It is too bad their govt wouldnt back them up and listen to their military leaders.  Hence, by the time the French govt decided to try and help the BEF and Belgium it was all over for everyone on the mainland.

Inaccurate representation of the facts.  Plan Dyle was all about linking up with the Belgian and Dutch military so that the war would not be fought on French soil.  Their government fully backed the plan, which was drawn up by Gamelin, who was considered their premier General.

Here is a good article regarding the Anglo-French plans to stop the Germans.

Their failure was primarily in assuming the Ardennes was natural barrier sufficient to deter a German attack.  This mistake was inexplicably repeated by the Allies in the winter of '44, resulting in the Battle of the Bulge.

[Ack-Ack]

They did help us, but at the time I don't think any part of their strategy had to deal with favors coming around over a hundred years later to save their entire nation, twice.  At the time, we were their enemie's enemy (England), willing to do the hard and dirty work they wanted done (fighting the English), we were a very cheap resource to the French nation's own agenda.  To think that the French were there during our revolution for anything more than their own nation's agenda, that they were there solely for the sake of a fledgling nation's health, independence and freedom, is ignorant.

Whatever their reasons were, without their aid there would not be a United States.  There is no disputing that point.

If you look at the history of WWI, we didn't "save" the French, they did that on their own during the Battle of Marne when they stopped the Germans on the River Marne and saved Paris.  All the US did with our contribution was help to shorten the war.  Germany was pretty much on the ropes by the time we entered, Austria-Hungary Empire had collapsed and Germany was experiencing a civil unrest that bordered on a civil war and in some cases, open revolt.


ack-ack

[HighTone]

    It's just that... I don't see any French vehicles! 

 French Vehicles??...give'em 10 minutes and wouldn't they be German vehicles anyway?

[Noir]

Whatever their reasons were, without their aid there would not be a United States.  There is no disputing that point.

If you look at the history of WWI, we didn't "save" the French, they did that on their own during the Battle of Marne when they stopped the Germans on the River Marne and saved Paris.  All the US did with our contribution was help to shorten the war.  Germany was pretty much on the ropes by the time we entered, Austria-Hungary Empire had collapsed and Germany was experiencing a civil unrest that bordered on a civil war and in some cases, open revolt.


ack-ack

I see the light !!!

[Meatwad]

Char would be useful as an assault gun for a town.


But it is S L O W.............

[Impakt]

One of my first posts here was about the need for French, Italian, Russian planes of various types (and Swordfish). I listed these nationalities in order of priority. The MOST OBVIOUS choice would be the Dewoitine 520. Not only was it used by French forces but the Germans used it in significant numbers (more than TA-152, or C-205). I doubt this would be a hangar queen. It might serve like the Hurri II, or P-40E---that is to say, seen in the LW arena some. I could go on and on about the Morane Saulnier 406 (by far France's most numerous AC at the outset), the Hawk 75-A (by far the most effective for French and Finns alike), and the Potez 631 (looks so much like a 110 both sides confused), but the D-520 seems a no brainer. BTW---the Yak-3 would  fit LW "unfortunate reality" of AH while providing a ride used by Normandie-Nieman. It was a much better plane than the 9-U. Good skin art opportunities for D-520---Axis and Allied. OH---you skins guys---how about some Free French Spits, Tempests, and B-26s---if you get bored.

[Noir]

I think the french B26's are post war stuff.

[Impakt]

Possibly correct on post war---I just derived that from a list of French squadrons in French Fighter Aces of WWII [Osprey] wherein the B-26 is listed as the plane for almost all of the bomber groups---let me check on it. That should not be a problem--I mean we have the B-26 in the game why would a skin modification be unusual? Its not like there aren't anomalies as is---the Ta-152, F4U-4, and the (1 vehicle in 4, British Units only) Sherman as representing Sherman's generally (yes it was a good "play balance decision).

[moot]

Anomalies?

[RipChord929]

Yes, the Hotchkiss, Somua, and Char B, would be sweet
additions to the EW.. But as long as the T34 is there, they
would be relegated to Joke status, or as waste of time and development...

It is my understanding, that EW consists of the yrs 39, 40, and 41...
(feel free to correct).. That being the case, the T34 was only encountered
in 41, and in quite small numbers... Before that, it was UNKNOWN to the world..
Its Rarity should be reflected in the EW...

As far as WWI.. By 1917/18 the Brits, French, and Germans, were all completely
exhausted, militarily and financially... NONE of them had enough left to close escrow
on the war.. British Empire was bankrupt, and had borrowed the last pence that
anyone would loan them, and were scraping up the last men left of a lost generation..
The French were also Bankrupt, and their army was suffering rebellion and mutiny
in their frontline units.. Frenchmen were no longer willing to throw their lives away...
The Germans were in worse shape.. suffering the losses of the war, and the ravages
of starvation because of the blockade...

Large scale offensive ops had pretty much halted by that point...
And then came the FLU!!! to all sides!!! It was killing more ppl than bullets and shells...

The growing presence of fresh American troops is what caused the Germans to
finally agree to an end to the wasteful mess... Did the US have an effect, OH YEAH!!!
Its believed by epidemiologists that the spanish flu originated in Ft Riley Kansas..
From the burning of sick pig carcasses... Voila the world pandemic of 1918!!!

Just things to consider
RC