Lil Wayne Isn't in a Recession

[zuii]

When the roots "sing" that is music. the rap part is not music. It may be set in the context of a song yet "rap" is not music. Mabey spoken poetry or yelled poetry, rap is not music. No matter how many post you make, rap
does NOT fit the definition of music. I like the band, they are musicans, the rapper guy is not. Its not my opinion, its fact.


zuii

Note: what roots are doing was done better in the late 90s, Screaming Headless Torsos,,,mixing rap with music.
new york, not jive hollywood grammy kid stuff. 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MtKvVm-dJY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eJzGQ42h24&feature=related

the roots are light-weights,, dont care what the grammys say.
The grammys give crap awards all the time. big deal.

zuii

[dentin]

Lil Wayne and the rest of those hood-rats ain't got sense to pour piss out of a boot.................werd. 

    

[RTHolmes]

so zuii by your definition we have to remove the instrumentation and solo the vocal tracks to look for harmony and melody? lets try that with Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata. hmmm cant hear any melody or harmony there - I guess that doesnt count as music then 

[zuii]

so zuii by your definition we have to remove the instrumentation and solo the vocal tracks to look for harmony and melody? lets try that with Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata. hmmm cant hear any melody or harmony there - I guess that doesnt count as music then 

solo vocal track is MELODY

and it not MY definition, its the accepted definition for the last 800/900 years or so.

zuii

[RTHolmes]

lets try that with ol Beethoven again - nope still no melody or harmony. still not music then.

[zuii]

lets try that with ol Beethoven again - nope still no melody or harmony. still not music then.

if you solo the vocal track you have MELODY! And silence is not music. its the absence of sound.

So if i take the ENGINE out of my car, its still a car. not one that can move or do car things, still a car (well its the SHELL OF a car). My back porch is a p51, its just missing the wings and an engine. I have this dog that runs really fast, he is a horse. Hahaaaa 

Death to all dictionary's, we dint need stinkin dictionary's.

im out on this, its absurd.
rap is not music.

<S> zuii

[RTHolmes]

if you solo the vocal track on the Moonlight Sonata you get ... silence. its a piece for piano. and it fails your test for music.

rap is music, it just happens to be a form you dont like. but thats ok, we all got different tastes and theres enuf music for everyone

[CAVPFCDD]

I would like to see jay z or lil wayne tell me about the pentatonic scale or the hexatonic scale....oh wait they can't because they have no knowledge of music or the structure of music

can they tell me about chord progessions....no because they don't know any of that either, the worst thing they do know is take a perfectly good rock and roll song and put their crappy words in it and call it their own.

It's like i said before, it will not last and think about this (again) what are you going to sing and teach your kids when they're young?

yeah i quoted myself, but still....enough said with that, i would like to hear them explain some basic music theory to me, they don't implement it in their songs, so i'm assuming they don't know any

[zuii]

if you solo the vocal track on the Moonlight Sonata you get ... silence. its a piece for piano. and it fails your test for music.

rap is music, it just happens to be a form you dont like. but thats ok, we all got different tastes and theres enuf music for everyone

Yes the moonlight sonata has MELODY and HARMONY, if you take out the NON-EXISTANT vocal track you have a PIANO playing MELODY and HARMONY.

rap is not music.


i lied,,NOW I'm out

zuii

my dog is a cow because i want him to be one.

[RTHolmes]

since we're getting the dictionary out

Music
1 a: the science or art of ordering tones or sounds in succession, in combination, and in temporal relationships to produce a composition having unity and continuity b: vocal, instrumental, or mechanical sounds having rhythm, melody, or harmony

@CAV formal musical training doesn't have much to do with musical creativity - from Django Reinhardt, early Skiffle bands, Robert Johnson through Bob Marley etc etc it hasnt been a requirement. David Beckham can swerve a ball round a wall into the net til the cows come home, i'm fairly sure he doesn't understand the maths behind it

[SFRT - Frenchy]

Some rap songs are already classics. Dono about Lil Monkey busting out with one yet.

Here's an old school classic played from all over the world, neat little feel good video. No $100 bills ice fountain.

[CAVPFCDD]

@CAV formal musical training doesn't have much to do with musical creativity - from Django Reinhardt, early Skiffle bands, Robert Johnson through Bob Marley etc etc it hasnt been a requirement. David Beckham can swerve a ball round a wall into the net til the cows come home, i'm fairly sure he doesn't understand the maths behind it

yes but to do what they did you have to have some knowledge of music theory, nobody can just pick up a guitar with no prior knowledge and make it sound good, you have to understand scales and patterns, then you can create some new form of music.

[Motherland]

yes but to do what they did you have to have some knowledge of music theory, nobody can just pick up a guitar with no prior knowledge and make it sound good, you have to understand scales and patterns, then you can create some new form of music.

Not really, there are plenty of famous artists who have no clue about musical theory, or didn't when they began playing/getting famous or whatever.

[CAVPFCDD]

Not really, there are plenty of famous artists who have no clue about musical theory, or didn't when they began playing/getting famous or whatever.

well duh nobody knows that much when they start, but its something that has to be learned to play so that it sounds like music and not a series of noises

[DMBEAR]

If Grammy winners and album sales are anyones main influence to buy something, perhaps they missed the following Grammy award winners for album of the year, and will now go out and buy them....  

1983 Thriller - Special Edition by Jackson, Michael 
1988 Faith by Michael, George
1993 The Bodyguard: Original Soundtrack Album by Houston, Whitney
1996 Falling into You by Dion, Celine
   
Or perhaps you want to know who got the Grammy for best new artist...

1990 Milli Vanilli 
Now go have fun with what they told you was good music!