If we had the Meteor

[Larry]

More like a G-6 weighted down with gondolas and a drop tank rack.

Yep and it shows the Mustang III turning about twice as good as a 190A. When our A5 can turn with the mustang and the A8 turn radius is about 20m bigger.

[BnZs]

More like a G-6 weighted down with gondolas and a drop tank rack.

IIRC it has been shown that the captured 109 used here did NOT have gondolas.

Larry: The diagram is a summary of approximate relative turn circles, not a depiction of the literal size of every turn circle.

It would appear that if the Meteor is modeled correctly, it will be a jet that out-turns many prop planes.

The figures I looked up bear this out. Loaded weight of 13,819 lbs and a wing area of 350 square feet, yielding a wing-loading of 39.5 lbs/square foot.

[Karnak]

Guys, that chart isn't showing repective turn circles.  It is just a crude indicator of which aircraft turn better, but says little about how much better.

[Cthulhu]

The figures I looked up bear this out. Loaded weight of 13,819 lbs and a wing area of 350 square feet, yielding a wing-loading of 39.5 lbs/square foot.

Just a heads-up: By way of example, the P-51D & Dora have nearly identical wing loading (Dora w/ full internal, Pony w/ wing tank only). The Dora's wing loading is actually lower, and it has the edge in power loading as well. But IMO, that doesn't keep the Pony from easily out-turning the FW at typical combat speeds. So I wouldn't use wing loading alone as a "slam-dunk" indicator of turn performance.

[Angus]

It is a pretty good indicator though.
But a jet being that decent would be a new thing in AH.
What a terror, 50 mph faster than any propper, 4 Hizoos, and turning ability.
WHOOOFF

[macerxgp]

It is a pretty good indicator though.
But a jet being that decent would be a new thing in AH.
What a terror, 50 mph faster than any propper, 4 Hizoos, and turning ability.
WHOOOFF

And every lick of it streaming in at your 12-o-clock......

[BnZs]

Just a heads-up: By way of example, the P-51D & Dora have nearly identical wing loading (Dora w/ full internal, Pony w/ wing tank only). The Dora's wing loading is actually lower, and it has the edge in power loading as well. But IMO, that doesn't keep the Pony from easily out-turning the FW at typical combat speeds. So I wouldn't use wing loading alone as a "slam-dunk" indicator of turn performance.

Sorry Cthulhu, but this is incorrect.

P-51D 75% (full wing tanks and a bit in the aux.)

9746lbs/wing area of 235 square feet.=41.5 lbs/square foot.

Dora, full internal, no drop.
9415lbs/wing area of 197 square feet=47.8 lbs/square foot.

(Note that the P-51D can fly farther on just the wing tanks than the Dora can on full internal.)

So there is in fact a very pronounced difference in wing-loading.

BTW, despite this, and the fact that the Dora is equipped with less efficient split flaps instead of maneuvering flaps, DokGonzo's shows the Dora actually maintaining a *smaller* sustained radius with full flaps, wtf?  Too bad the flaps won't deploy at a reasonably high airspeed, isn't? 

[BnZs]

FWIW, I used to play CFS3, which had some "speculative" WWII aircraft, including the 262, P-80, and Meteor. The Meteor was by far the easiest of the 3 jets to furball with, the only real "flaw" of it being that you had enough G available to easily fail the structure at normal speeds.

I cranked up Il2:1946, and oddly, they have the 262, Volksjager, P-80, Ta-183, variations upon the theme of MiG...but no Meteor. 

[Angus]

And every lick of it streaming in at your 12-o-clock......

Does one spend the perks on HO's?
 

[macerxgp]

Does one spend the perks on HO's?
 

No, but certain 262 pilots do...... When they aren't being used as stall bait.....

[Wolfala]

Interestingly good turn rate then.
Would be the only really dangerous opponent for the 262.
Although...50 miles slower top speed, maybe less at SL, and then things like zoom, turn, dive and such are yet unknown.
I wonder about acceleration from throttling up. In a 262 you would have to be very slow.
The Meteors engines are different (centrifugal, a concept long abandoned) and here I have no clue how fast they could rev up. Didn't sound that long though.
So, lots of perks anyway...

The rest is cool, but centrifugal compressors are far from having been abandoned. Hell just look at the power section of a PT-6, what'd you think is driving it?

[Angus]

PT-6?
Anyway, what I remember is that at the birth of the jet engine they were used quite a bit (UK), and later on used for other purposes, such as snow blowing etc. I think they were rather reliable, but the "other" design was more advanced once the materials were good enough as well as other factors (regulator being one).
And the sound is the coolest I ever heard.
So, the Meteor gave the coolest Jet sound I heard, while a Hunter was the finest noise generator.
I miss my old days at airshows....

[BnZs]

IIRC, an "axial flow" jet engine like the Germans had better thrust/drag ratio,  but, had higher operating temperatures, which with the alloys they had in late WWII led to very short engine life. By comparison, I believe there are British engines from that period still running today....

PT-6?
Anyway, what I remember is that at the birth of the jet engine they were used quite a bit (UK), and later on used for other purposes, such as snow blowing etc. I think they were rather reliable, but the "other" design was more advanced once the materials were good enough as well as other factors (regulator being one).
And the sound is the coolest I ever heard.
So, the Meteor gave the coolest Jet sound I heard, while a Hunter was the finest noise generator.
I miss my old days at airshows....

[macerxgp]

Centrifugal turbines are still very much alive, due to the fact they are much simpler to build because they don't require complex stators for compression, especially in the hobby sector. It's a hell of a lot easier to build a turbine out of a turbocharger and a flame can than it is to build an axial compressor.

[Yarbles]

Looks like the Meteor would be a great addition to them game and something I would fly for instance on my Birthday as It looks as though it would have to be at least as highly perked as the 262.

In reality does anyone think we will get it in the forseeable future if at all?
If not who will specualte as to what sort of planes we will get next?

TBH honest I cant think of anything that would come close interms of interest and excitement to the Meteor