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Offline Banshee7

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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #510 on: March 24, 2010, 11:25:17 PM »
Quote from: Fencer51 on March 22, 2010, 10:59:31 AM
Ahh no fair actually going there and looking.  :P

That's why I didn't post where it was at :P


Here's my picture, lyric...I think yo had a better camera :/


To stay on topic:


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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #511 on: March 27, 2010, 01:59:24 AM »
Fnished a nice Book tonite.

"Looking backwards over Burma-Wartime Recollections of an RAF Beaufighter Navigator" by Dennis Spencer DFC.  2009 publication so a new one.  A great read covering 211 Squadron's part in the air war over Burma to fo with 177 and 27 squadrons.   Low level, more low level, bad weather, monsoons, rockets, flak, etc.

A good read for the Beaufighter junkies like myself.

Picked up the 404 Squadron RCAF history and it has a nice photo section on their time with the Beaufighter operating with the Dallachy Strike Wing.

Continuing the hunt for more Beaufighter information in print too!
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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #512 on: March 29, 2010, 11:26:23 PM »
You really are a junkie :)
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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #513 on: March 30, 2010, 01:30:13 AM »
Quote from: FTJR on March 29, 2010, 11:26:23 PM
You really are a junkie :)

Yep it's bad :)

They fought such a different war, in particular in the Pacific and CBI.  Weather a major player.  Low level ops.  Missions made up of 2-6 planes at most.  Not the ETO load up the mob and go stuff

I remember a night in the AvA way back when weather was present, low icon range, wind etc and it was a totally different challenge.  I keep imagining using the Beau in as much of a historical role as possible in the MA which would mean low level, long range, interdiction.  Find me trains, shipping, flak guns etc to use those rockets and 4 20mms on :)
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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #514 on: March 30, 2010, 06:22:32 AM »
There's one called "No Hero, Just A Survivor" by a gent who was on Beaus in the Eastern Med, followed by Mossies in India and Burma. Might be worth a look, especially as it has a Mosquito on the cover!

Good 404 Sqn stuff here: http://www.404squadron.com/index.html

Excellent 211 Sqn stuff here: http://users.cyberone.com.au/clardo/

Both units ended up on the Mossie in the last throes of their war, hence my interest.
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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #515 on: March 30, 2010, 11:41:29 AM »
Quote from: Scherf on March 30, 2010, 06:22:32 AM
There's one called "No Hero, Just A Survivor" by a gent who was on Beaus in the Eastern Med, followed by Mossies in India and Burma. Might be worth a look, especially as it has a Mosquito on the cover!

Good 404 Sqn stuff here: http://www.404squadron.com/index.html

Excellent 211 Sqn stuff here: http://users.cyberone.com.au/clardo/

Both units ended up on the Mossie in the last throes of their war, hence my interest.

The 211 site lead me to Spencer's book :)

An interesting Mossie photo in the 404 squadron book shows a flight attacking a U-Boat in April 45. What's interesting is the rocket rail set up as it appears they have 4 rockets on each wing but in pairs one on top of the other so only 4 sets of rails.  Don't remember seeing it set up that way on before.  Guess I'll have to get the scanner going :)

The other book you mentioned is on my find it list :aok
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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #516 on: March 30, 2010, 11:46:48 AM »
iirc they used stacked RP-3 rockets on typhies - 4 on the top row, 2 on the bottom on each wing, so its possible.

yup, 12 rocket typhies :rock I can only imagine what the stacked rails did for its drag and maneuverability tho :uhoh
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« Reply #517 on: March 30, 2010, 03:11:37 PM »
The 2x2 rocket setup allowed the Mossies to carry both rockets and drop tanks at the same time, though for obvious reasons the tanks had to be dropped before the rockets could be fired. There was a also a flat piece of metal between the tanks and the rockets to prevent the drops from weathervaning into the rockets when the former were jettisoned.
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« Reply #518 on: March 30, 2010, 06:52:26 PM »
Apparently this is Beaufighter guncam film:

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=52540

I believe the big jobbie coming under fire is a Cant Z.506, though it looks to have German markings.
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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #519 on: March 31, 2010, 12:12:17 AM »
Quote from: Scherf on March 30, 2010, 06:52:26 PM
Apparently this is Beaufighter guncam film:

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=52540

I believe the big jobbie coming under fire is a Cant Z.506, though it looks to have German markings.

Those trees look awfully close!  Note the pilot had to pull up before nosing back down on his gun run :)

Love that Pathe site for WW2 gunfilm.
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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #520 on: March 31, 2010, 12:24:31 AM »
Yeah, sometimes I find myself watching the trees more than the target. "Dude, pull up! Uh, dude ... Dude! Pull UP!"

There's quite a lot of guncam stuff there. I've even seen one which sadly depicts a fatal friendly-fire attack on a Mossie.
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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #521 on: March 31, 2010, 12:31:02 AM »
Quote from: Scherf on March 31, 2010, 12:24:31 AM
Yeah, sometimes I find myself watching the trees more than the target. "Dude, pull up! Uh, dude ... Dude! Pull UP!"

There's quite a lot of guncam stuff there. I've even seen one which sadly depicts a fatal friendly-fire attack on a Mossie.

Saw that one too.  4th FG Mustangs in October 44 if I remember right. Painful to watch when you know the outcome is a downed mossie and two dead RAF flyers :(
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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #522 on: March 31, 2010, 12:34:44 AM »
Wow the dreaded double post! :)
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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #523 on: March 31, 2010, 07:25:36 AM »
Ok...I love you guys....but let's keep this on topic. 


Where the hell is the Beaufighter?   :bolt:
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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #524 on: March 31, 2010, 08:37:44 AM »
Quote from: Scherf on March 30, 2010, 06:52:26 PM
Apparently this is Beaufighter guncam film:

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=52540

I believe the big jobbie coming under fire is a Cant Z.506, though it looks to have German markings.

Wow, great site, thans Scherf
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