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Offline Larry

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P-51C "Berlin Express"
« on: January 04, 2009, 09:24:59 PM »
Anyone have any pictures of this bird other then these? I could really use one of the right side of the fusaloge.






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Offline Krusty

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Re: P-51C "Berlin Express"
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2009, 10:20:52 PM »
That's actually a pretty nice skin idea! I'd use it while flying pony Bs!

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Re: P-51C "Berlin Express"
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2009, 12:42:26 AM »
I take it you've been to Bud Anderson's website?

http://www.cebudanderson.com/


Bill Overstreet talking about the markings on his P51C "Berlin Express"

http://www.cebudanderson.com/357profileberlinexpress.htm

A fairly decent diecast P51C of "Berlin Express"  autographed by Overstreet

http://www.flyingmule.com/products/FM-B11E431

While this is from his earlier B model, I do believe the markings on the right side of Berlin Express were similar.


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Re: P-51C "Berlin Express"
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2009, 01:46:40 AM »
That's what I was looking for Dan.  :aok


N7 said that there was a "dragon riding a P51" and we could only find very small pictures of it. With that picture I have enough detail to try and remake it.




Edit: One other question. What does the decal under the bombs say exactly?
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Re: P-51C "Berlin Express"
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2009, 02:03:06 AM »
I think you are talking about the data block


U.S. ARMY P51C-10NT
SERIAL NO. AAF 42-103309
CREW WEIGHT 200 LBS.
SERVICE THIS AIRPLANE WITH
GRADE 100/130 FUEL. IF NOT
AVAILALABLE T.O. 06-5-1 WILL BE
CONSULTED FOR EMERGENCY ACTION
SUITABLE FOR AROMATIC FUEL
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Re: P-51C "Berlin Express"
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2009, 07:17:11 AM »

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Re: P-51C "Berlin Express"
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2009, 12:21:22 PM »
It still needs a lot of work but here is what I have done on the left side. Main thing that needs reworking are the panel lines, rivets, and screws. I need to make two sets of each. One for where the aluminum is showing and one for all the parts that are painted. So they look right on each surface.




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Re: P-51C "Berlin Express"
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2009, 03:34:09 PM »
It still needs a lot of work but here is what I have done on the left side. Main thing that needs reworking are the panel lines, rivets, and screws. I need to make two sets of each. One for where the aluminum is showing and one for all the parts that are painted. So they look right on each surface.






For what it's worth, by the time it got the Malcom hood, the D-Day stripes would have only been lower half of the fuselage and wings.  And I note that you have full stripes on the fuselage and no invasion stripes on the top of the wing.  If its all the way round the fuselage it's all the way round the wing too :)
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Re: P-51C "Berlin Express"
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2009, 04:15:48 PM »
I had them all the way around the top of the wing until I saw the photo you posted. So what you are saying it should look like eather one of these, or should the top of the wings and h-stab be clean in the bottom one?



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Re: P-51C "Berlin Express"
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2009, 06:48:35 PM »
I like the bottom one more.  It's correct for the time Berlin Express had the Malcom hood.  Full D-Day stripes weren't worn for very long.  The half stripes cover a greater time period too so I'd go with that if you are wanting my opinion.
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Re: P-51C "Berlin Express"
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2009, 06:57:52 PM »
Yeah...Dan already stated what I was gonna say.  the bottom one looks killer and way better than the top one IMO.
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Re: P-51C "Berlin Express"
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2009, 07:22:25 PM »
Okay bottom one it is. That version would have had the horse riding the pony right?
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Re: P-51C "Berlin Express"
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2009, 10:53:36 PM »
Okay bottom one it is. That version would have had the horse riding the pony right?

On the right side.  I think that was common to any of Overstreet's 51s
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Re: P-51C "Berlin Express"
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2009, 12:22:48 AM »
How does this look? Overstreet said that the horse was brown so I took the picture you posed cut the horse out, remade the P51 and circles by hand, then pasted the horse back. I then took a shade of light brown and painted over the horse with a light brush and set the opacity to 65% so the shading from the original photo shows up, but there is still enough brown that it doesn't look like a grayscale picture.




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Re: P-51C "Berlin Express"
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2009, 12:26:33 AM »
I like that noseart almost as much as McKennons P-51B "Yippee Joe" of the 334FS/4FG.
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