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Offline Treize69

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Re: Do you like WW I Air Combat?
« Reply #90 on: January 23, 2009, 07:25:02 PM »
The problem with WWI is the same as WWII, Korea, Vietnam, etc.- they're all niche markets. WWI enthusiasts are admittedly a much smaller percentage of the market than any other period, for all the reasons Llama posted. Most of the non-Jet set gravitate to WWII, for the faster planes, better armament and more glamorous planes. Even though they usually fly them slowly and around and around in circles, like WWI combat was, not WWII.

I for one loved DoA for the same reasons Llama just badmouthed it- most of the people in there were ENTHUSIASTS, not GAMERS. You could get a good, long, hard fight in there and usually it would stay 1v1. A fight above any help usually meant that they were out of the equation, and a fight out of icon range meant any help was several minutes away. Plus with most planes being similar in performance, tactics meant much more that crank and bank fighting- anything you could do, your target could do. You had to outsmart him before you could outfly him. You didn't just scream in with your hair on fire and all guns blazing and expect to blow off your targets tail or wing with a half second burst- you had to WORK for it. And you had to learn to shoot, not just spray-and-pray. The difference between a guy with a 20% hit rate and guy with a 3% rate was obvious and dramatic. I often landed 4 or 5 kills with ammo left over once I learned how to shoot and aim in my ride of choice (Albatros D.V). The limiting factor was usually fuel and finding oppsition.

And I'm still a big fan of non-cannon armed planes. That is a BIG selling point for me when it comes to WWI.
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Re: Do you like WW I Air Combat?
« Reply #91 on: January 23, 2009, 09:05:32 PM »
finish making AHII first before making WWI.....
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Re: Do you like WW I Air Combat?
« Reply #92 on: January 23, 2009, 09:10:36 PM »
Having tried "Dawn of Aces" when I was at Warbirds----it is quite boring. IMO, technology reached a perfect balance in WWII from the standpoint of a combat simulation. I find WWI and post WWII equally tedious.


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Re: Do you like WW I Air Combat?
« Reply #93 on: January 23, 2009, 09:16:05 PM »
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All the squeakies could ruin it when they log in and answer the poll.  "Mommy, what's WWI?"  lolz.

WWII Beta, they will probably understand that one  :D
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Re: Do you like WW I Air Combat?
« Reply #94 on: January 23, 2009, 10:05:33 PM »
You think 1 WW1 plane is going to make a WW1 arena? No. They need a whole planeset, then a special terrain to accomodate the ludicrously slow flight speeds, and then they need another arena (which would have less action than the AvA is my guess), all of which would take a lot of thought and planning, and wind up being unused by 99% of the arena.

P.S. You're assuming any new blood will come in just for WW1 games. More than likely a small minority that already subscribe will try it out. That's little to no new revenue, and a lot of expended time/effort.

Kinda like your "knowledge" on the Polish Air Force.   You know little about of which you speak.   The sooner you realize this, the easier life will be for you. 

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Re: Do you like WW I Air Combat?
« Reply #95 on: January 23, 2009, 10:10:46 PM »
Said the person that exaggerated the Polish Air Force's history to the point he made it sound like they were the most important and numerous fighting force the world has ever seen?

 :rolleyes:

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Re: Do you like WW I Air Combat?
« Reply #96 on: January 23, 2009, 10:20:15 PM »
Said the person that exaggerated the Polish Air Force's history to the point he made it sound like they were the most important and numerous fighting force the world has ever seen?

 :rolleyes:

Quit believing your own press. The sooner you do, the easier it will be on you.

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Re: Do you like WW I Air Combat?
« Reply #97 on: January 23, 2009, 11:12:39 PM »
 Hmmm I bet 1st 3 aircraft are the Dr1, camel and 1 1/2 strutter ! :devil
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Re: Do you like WW I Air Combat?
« Reply #98 on: January 23, 2009, 11:58:28 PM »
  No cannons and slow planes. Probably not alot would like it.

   Id love it.

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Re: Do you like WW I Air Combat?
« Reply #99 on: January 24, 2009, 12:00:27 AM »
  No cannons and slow planes. Probably not alot would like it.

   Id love it.

No GV's.  Tanks supported infantry.

No Base Taking.  No paratroops nor transports.

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Re: Do you like WW I Air Combat?
« Reply #100 on: January 24, 2009, 12:30:26 AM »
Polish Air Force? What's that, a couple of guys with a Piper Cub who once saw Top Gun on cable?  :aok

As for WWI air combat, sure, sounds fun, just one more arena for me to be reminded of how badly I suck. I just want the opportunity to say on 200 "Did you see what that Fokker just did!"
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Re: Do you like WW I Air Combat?
« Reply #101 on: January 24, 2009, 12:40:26 AM »
I see Krusty and Karaya are "bonding" again  :uhoh
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Re: Do you like WW I Air Combat?
« Reply #102 on: January 24, 2009, 12:45:20 AM »
  No cannons and slow planes. Probably not alot would like it.

   Id love it.

For the same reason many of us in Battleground Europe enjoy the first Tier of each campaign, where the Luftwaffe has the Bf 110C-4, Bf 109E-1, Bf 109E-4  . And the Allies get the Hawk 75 , Hurri I, Spit Ia, and  Dewoitine 520. (recent change, recently it was just the 110 v Hawk 75 and Hurri I)

Aircraft in that tier are slower, generally not as lethal. Combats are more thrust and parry and counter attack then just everyone zooming around in their lazor instant kill x wings Spit IXs/P 38Fs/Fw 190A-4s.

Edit - BTW looking through some of the Fokker, Albatros , etc designs, were there any single seat fighters or fighter/scouts with more than 2 Foward firing LMGs as armament (that were produced in number and saw service).
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Re: Do you like WW I Air Combat?
« Reply #103 on: January 24, 2009, 12:56:44 AM »
So typical 1v1 dogfights frequently had their winner determined  by ...who brought along the most friends. 4v1 fights seemed very typical, and it seemed the only reliable way to actually shoot an enemy down due to the sheer weight of ammo that could be aimed at a target.

Damn! He just described the MA we have now!  :rofl

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Re: Do you like WW I Air Combat?
« Reply #104 on: January 24, 2009, 01:55:46 AM »
well......... im in for a ww1 game.......have yet to vote in the game cause im currently playing Enigma: Rising Tide (another good "old" game) but count this as my yes.