Author Topic: Gloster Meteor  (Read 11972 times)

Offline Zacherof

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3993
Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2013, 05:29:34 PM »
I want it! Will give me another thing to kill in uber 262
« Last Edit: April 13, 2013, 05:36:29 PM by Zacherof »
In game name Xacherof
USN Sea Bee
**ELITE**
I am a meat popsicle

Offline lyric1

  • Skinner Team
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 10635
Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2013, 06:06:32 PM »
It is badly needed to fill the void that is the RAF's first Jet fighter

Badly needed no. But I will take it.

Offline Bruv119

  • Aces High CM Staff
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15670
      • http://www.thefewsquadron.co.uk
Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2013, 12:33:54 PM »
excuse the bump,  

Now that the Yak-3 has finally made it into Late war this is the only credible plane that can be added to this arena, for those of us who would like a competitive, non-hangar queen, fighter aircraft.

The ME-262 has long since been the top of the food chain and whilst I do not see this plane changing that, down to pure top speed, it can most definitely spice things up a bit!  

It will also do justice to the genius of Sir Frank Whittle and the Historic moment when it became the RAF's first jet fighter aircraft.

My other selfish reasons for wishing this, I have a zillion Fighter perks unused and my good friend Kazaa has given me his word that he will come back to the game and actively play if this plane is added.  
The Few ***
F.P.H

Offline Butcher

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5323
Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2013, 12:53:21 PM »
I was once against the Meteor on grounds it really didn't see combat service (i.e it wasn't flown against enemy aircraft and kept behind the lines the entire war). But like the P-39 it did do ground attack missions at the end of the war (there was no luftwaffe really left to challenge it anyway).
It served in combat and was in combat strength, My only question is will it be the Mk I or Mk III? I think the MkI was in operation and Mk III was after the war (I cannot remember I posted the information in another Meteor thread while back).

I do would like to see the Meteor eventually, I would certainly vote on it knowing the information I have, it earned its rights just like any other aircraft.

I just wish the Brits were not scared to throw it against the Luftwaffe (one of the main reasons I read was they were worried the Germans might get ahold of the technology if the meteor goes down) not sure if anyone can cite this but its one of the reasons I know it was held back.
JG 52

Offline Bruv119

  • Aces High CM Staff
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15670
      • http://www.thefewsquadron.co.uk
Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2013, 12:57:09 PM »
the first meteor flew in 1943,  what we would want is the Mk III that ended the war.  

It wasn't because the Brits were scared to use it but why would you risk it getting into German / Soviet hands when you had Spitfires, Typhoons and Tempests doing all the dirty ground attack work against a rapidly shrinking German front.

Knocking down flying bombs was important and dangerous work and it was in squadron strength.   The fact that it made the vote list last time out indicates that HTC accept it's inclusion.    

As far as LWMA goes how awesome would it be to saddle up to a 262 and have a proper Axis vs Allies match up instead of girly men passing up 262 vs 262 action.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2013, 01:01:26 PM by Bruv119 »
The Few ***
F.P.H

Offline Butcher

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5323
Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2013, 01:47:03 PM »
the first meteor flew in 1943,  what we would want is the Mk III that ended the war.  


Was it the Mk1 or Mk III that was flown in combat though? I don't recall if Mk III even seen combat.
JG 52

Offline Bruv119

  • Aces High CM Staff
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15670
      • http://www.thefewsquadron.co.uk
Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #36 on: September 12, 2013, 01:52:45 PM »
wiki says   46 German planes strafed on the ground and Squadrons were in Belgium before the end of the war. 

losses from friendly collisions.

I'll have to get a book on it my collection is extensive but nothing on the meteor apart from seeing the one in RAF Hendon and a much later Model at Tangmere musuem.
The Few ***
F.P.H

Offline Arlo

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 24759
Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #37 on: September 12, 2013, 01:57:26 PM »
No. 616 Squadron exchanged its F.1s for the first Meteor F.3s on 18 December 1944.

Judging the Meteor F.3s were ready for combat over Europe, the RAF finally decided
to deploy them in the continent. On 20 January 1945, four Meteors were moved to
Melsbroek in Belgium and attached to the Second Tactical Air Force. Their initial
purpose was to provide air defence for the airfield, but their pilots hoped that their
presence might provoke the Luftwaffe into sending Me 262s against them. At this
point the Meteor pilots were still forbidden to fly over German-occupied territory,
or to go east of Eindhoven, to prevent a downed aircraft being captured by the
Germans or the Soviets.

In March, the entire squadron was moved to Gilze-Rijen and then in April, to Nijmegen.
The Meteors flew armed reconnaissance and ground attack operations without
encountering any German jet fighters. By late April, the squadron was based at Faßberg,
Germany and suffered its first losses when two aircraft collided in poor visibility. The war
ended with the Meteors having destroyed 46 German aircraft through ground attack and
having faced more problems through misidentification as the Messerschmitt Me 262 by
Allied aircraft and flak than from the Luftwaffe.

^ Butler and Buttler 2006, p. 48.
^ Green 1968, p. 55.
^ "CL 2934." Imperial War Museum. Retrieved: 3 June 2012.
^ Butler and Buttler 2006, p. 49.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloster_Meteor

Offline Butcher

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5323
Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #38 on: September 12, 2013, 02:20:22 PM »
Thanks gents, I read about 616 squadron maybe a handful of times, I just couldnt remember if it was Meteor Mk 3's or not, I remember one argument someone said Mk 3's never were in the war so I was confused by it (someone read a bad website if i recall now, website was bogus in someone saying Mk 3s never seen combat blah blah, probably a Luftwaffe fan boi coming up with his own information).

I do have quite a few Meteor books available if anyone wants them, and for your viewing pleasures I went and back got the tempest vs meteor test from one of my books, Enjoy!

JG 52

Offline Bruv119

  • Aces High CM Staff
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15670
      • http://www.thefewsquadron.co.uk
Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #39 on: September 12, 2013, 02:48:01 PM »
If it does indeed turn inside a Tempest then it will be nice to fly!   :D
The Few ***
F.P.H

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23047
Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2013, 04:21:05 PM »
Now that the Yak-3 has finally made it into Late war this is the only credible plane that can be added to this arena, for those of us who would like a competitive, non-hangar queen, fighter aircraft.
I'd say the G.55, Ki-44-II, J2M3 or 5, P-63 and Re.2005 are all credible for the LWA as well.  We are getting down to the dregs though.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline Zacherof

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3993
Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2013, 04:31:00 PM »
I'd say the G.55, Ki-44-II, J2M3 or 5, P-63 and Re.2005 are all credible for the LWA as well.  We are getting down to the dregs though.
Dont forget my seaplane fighters :old:

And plus 1 for the Meteor
In game name Xacherof
USN Sea Bee
**ELITE**
I am a meat popsicle

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23047
Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #42 on: September 12, 2013, 05:34:25 PM »
Dont forget my seaplane fighters :old:

And plus 1 for the Meteor
Seaplane fighters will not be credible in the LWA.  Probably not any arena.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline Zacherof

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3993
Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #43 on: September 12, 2013, 05:38:14 PM »
Seaplane fighters will not be credible in the LWA.  Probably not any arena.
I grasp for straws with that wish. If they get get added it wont be for long time.

Dide the meteor carry small ords or rockets??
In game name Xacherof
USN Sea Bee
**ELITE**
I am a meat popsicle

Offline Debrody

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4487
Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #44 on: September 12, 2013, 05:49:22 PM »
wiki says   46 German planes strafed on the ground and Squadrons were in Belgium before the end of the war.  

losses from friendly collisions.

I'll have to get a book on it my collection is extensive but nothing on the meteor apart from seeing the one in RAF Hendon and a much later Model at Tangmere musuem.
You can use it historically - vulch uppers. Great stuff.

Too bad, the Red Airforce has no bomber, also the Red Army is represented by two variants of one tank. Maybe thay have seen a little bit more action, than the Meteor - as it might be safe to say, the large majority of the war happened on the eastern front.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2013, 05:51:37 PM by Debrody »
AoM
City of ice