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Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« on: January 25, 2009, 04:40:34 PM »
Thanks for giving it a thought :)
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2009, 04:41:18 PM »
+1 :aok
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2009, 05:12:48 PM »
Goes without saying. Tank's number needs raising, Kurt's and D9's need lowering.:aok
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2009, 05:23:19 PM »
m00t you ta dweeb. +1  :aok
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2009, 05:45:36 PM »
In the MA at the lower alt most fights are at, I'd agree. Anything over 22k and the thing really shines, you can BnZ everything but P47s up there and I'd have to disagree.

It depends on what HTC judges ENY to be based on; capability, or by usage.
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2009, 07:26:56 PM »
Anything over 22k and the thing really shines, you can BnZ everything but P47s up there and I'd have to disagree.
 

While we're on the topic I think the 47N ENY deserves a bit of scrutiny as well.
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2009, 07:38:52 PM »
While we're on the topic I think the 47N ENY deserves a bit of scrutiny as well.
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2009, 07:39:48 PM »
While we're on the topic I think the 47N ENY deserves a bit of scrutiny as well.
I think either 8 or 10 on the 47N's. It only shines at high alt and there aren't many high alt fights.
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2009, 08:32:36 PM »
Mmmmmm... if we lower the ENY everyone will start flying the Tank monster. Then they'll find out that its initial turn rate can and does beat Spit16s. Then they'll learn how to hit with the 30mm. Basically, it will be a nightmare. Keep the 152 the secret weapon it is! Haha
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2009, 08:39:35 PM »
While we're on the topic I think the 47N ENY deserves a bit of scrutiny as well.

I disagree.  It's over-all performance/ability is top-tier.
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2009, 08:56:58 PM »
I disagree.  It's over-all performance/ability is top-tier.

Bollocks. At typical MA alts its a poor turner, poor climber, only competitive in speed for the 5 minutes its WEP lasts. Jug has its good points, but the Pony and Dora are both easier to land kills with in the MA. Come to think of it, the Ta-152 has fantastic firepower, excellent range, climbs and accelerates better than the P-47N, is pretty fast on WEP that lasts 10 minutes and replenishes quickly.

And here is the Ninja-secret of the Ta-152: Its turn radius is poor, between the A-5 and the D9. But the efficiency of its glider-like wings allow it to sustain a very good turn *rate*.

Pony, Dora, JugN, Ta-152, 109K, F4U-1A/D...make 'em all 10 ENY and have done I say.
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2009, 09:13:16 PM »
The pony-D is fine at 8.  5$ says such a value (not 5 or 10) is because someone at HTC gave it good reflexion. 
An ENY of 10 would be great for the 152. You can rarely find a fight on a country that's got enough numbers to restrict ENY at 10 or more, whereas it happens often enough at 6 or 7 or 8 ENY.  I wouldn't be against just 8 either. 
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2009, 12:37:51 AM »
I disagree.  It's over-all performance/ability is top-tier.

I'm no expert so please explain to me why it's reasonable for the N to be at 5, whilst the D40 is 20?  Other than the fact that it runs like a raped ape up high as does the 152.
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2009, 01:11:25 AM »
I'm no expert so please explain to me why it's reasonable for the N to be at 5, whilst the D40 is 20?  Other than the fact that it runs like a raped ape up high as does the 152.

The D-40 ENY might be too high... but there's three important things the N has over the D-40: speed, roll-rate, and range.  To my mind, the P-47N is the supreme boom n' zoom aircraft of the American planeset, better than the P-51D.
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2009, 01:50:56 AM »
Dont even think about wasting your time in asking HTC to reconsider their ENY or OBJ scoring.  Stop and think how often people have pointed out the inconsistancies in their scoring and yet... how much has changed?

Browse a bit over the scores and you'll see HUGE discrepancies and they've been pointed out numerous time by numerous people.  Yet, in the last year they've changed a single plane and all they did was un-perk the Ta152.

There are all kinds of ENY/OBJ scoring travesties.  Having the IL-2 and A20 at 25/25 (ENY/OBJ) is about as logical as having the P47N at 5/10 and the P47D-40 at 20/10. 
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