F6F-5N

[Thor84]

with the me 262, 163, and ar234 in the game and a relative land based airforce advantage. i dont see any reason why the f6f-5n isnt in the game as even a perk plane. this hellcat version packed 2 20mm cannons as well as its 6 .50 cal machine guns. not to mention that another version of the f6f-5 had a wing mounted radar unit as did the tbm.   all i wish to see would be the addition of the f6f-5n.  and maybe the perfomance of the hellcat overall improved to the real specs....   slight max speed increase in level flight out to 345mph ehich is what the f6f-5 had and with the 4 blade prop that was also on that model, which would give a slight acceleration increase.

[FYB]

with the me 262, 163, and ar234 in the game and a relative land based airforce advantage. i dont see any reason why the f6f-5n isnt in the game as even a perk plane. this hellcat version packed 2 20mm cannons as well as its 6 .50 cal machine guns. not to mention that another version of the f6f-5 had a wing mounted radar unit as did the tbm.   all i wish to see would be the addition of the f6f-5n.  and maybe the perfomance of the hellcat overall improved to the real specs....   slight max speed increase in level flight out to 345mph ehich is what the f6f-5 had and with the 4 blade prop that was also on that model, which would give a slight acceleration increase.

Somebody get me a history book.
When in gods name did the tbm carry a mounted radar?
And the F6F-5N was, well... idk never heard of it. I watch the military channel (yes i like to watch it...) and they never said anything about 20mm cannons and radar on a F6F Hellcat.

Ive got to stop drinking... Its getting to make me think a B-17 can launch a Black hawk heli and carry 21 gunners... or 12 gunners... Eh, i give up. Give him what he wants.

-FYB

[Thor84]

thats the advatage to have the books to back it.........     and the history channel has battlefield 360 which spends about 20 min of an episode talking about the night ops and use of aircraft mounted radar off the lucky "E". really good book that i recommend is the encyclopedia of aircraft of wwII.  check it out. theres a lot of good information that will supprise anyone.  the real question is why not have these versions?   theres how many spits and f4u's amongst other aircraft. i know the comparison of the 262 to a hellcat is a bit out there but it was just to show that there are other far more used aircraft.......

[jerkins]

IIRC the standard for the f6f-5n was still 6 50's.  Some field modifications were made, adding 2 20mm in place of a set of 50 guns.  This left the modified planes with 2 20mm and 4 50 cals.

[Krusty]

The -Ns were night fighters, and even so, very few of them ever used the 2x20mm armament [some did, mind you, but they were the minority]. Almost all of 'em had 6x50cals for many reasons.

[texastc316]

Somebody get me a history book.
When in gods name did the tbm carry a mounted radar?
And the F6F-5N was, well... idk never heard of it. I watch the military channel (yes i like to watch it...) and they never said anything about 20mm cannons and radar on a F6F Hellcat.

Ive got to stop drinking... Its getting to make me think a B-17 can launch a Black hawk heli and carry 21 gunners... or 12 gunners... Eh, i give up. Give him what he wants.

-FYB

NIght fighters had em. Think the Marines had corsairs with radar too.
Actually there was an episode of Dogfights that dealt with the Hellcats with radar. Didnt Butch O'hare get shot down in a nightfighter flying with a TBM with the radar?

Dont k now about the 20 mils, althou I read something recently that mentioned it, first Id heard of it. Ill try and find where I found it.

[Thor84]

point really is that more and more information has come to light about a lot of the fighters. im a hellcat pilot no question there. i just want to see more versions of it. and yes butch o'hare did go down in a radar equipped tbm. i wouldnt mind having a weapon package with 2x20mm and 4 .50cals. and aircraft mounted radar would add a whole different dimension to the game... the radar isnt really my concern. im sure that there are other aircraft such as the p-40 that have little to none of there other versions..... for example there was a limited run of p-40s that had the merlin engine.  like i said earlyer though, there are more than enuf land based fighters that are very good with good variety. so if anyone can answer the why not question...........        and being fairly new to ah, i want to personally thank anyone that has made a skin for any of these vehicles. and for the continuing improvements to the game.  being that the hellcat is my personal favorite, thanks greebo for the vf-27 skin in particular.

[moot]

This topic's been done.  Others might better recall which threads had the most conclusive discussions.  Just two you could find with a quick and dirty search:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,191489.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,203418.0.html

[AWwrgwy]

point really is that more and more information has come to light about a lot of the fighters. im a hellcat pilot no question there. i just want to see more versions of cannon equipped planes.

Fixed.

And, about 1200 P-40F's with Packard/Merlin engines were produced.  They had single stage, two-speed superchargers vs. the two stage, two-speed supercharger used in the Mustang that gave it it's high-altitude performance.

There's another thread on the board somewhere stating the P-40's performance was pretty much the same powered by an Allison Engine or a Merlin.

wrongway

[Saxman]

The -Ns were night fighters, and even so, very few of them ever used the 2x20mm armament [some did, mind you, but they were the minority]. Almost all of 'em had 6x50cals for many reasons.

They actually only had FIVE of the .50cals. One was removed to offset the weight of the radar installation in the wing.

Although maybe I'm thinking about the F4U-2s and the radar installation on the F6F was in the drop tank's position. Been a while since I've looked into them.

[Anaxogoras]

the history channel has battlefield 360

Oh dear.

[Marauding Conan]

Why would you want night fighters?

[Thor84]

if you read up on the f6f-5n youd find out that only the radar equipped version was the night fighter. the point is only to have more versions of aircraft in the game.......   mainly in this instence the 4 bladed prop and the cannon package for the hellcat. there was one post in here where someone denied that any of these options ever existed......   being that its a game that is a simulation of wwII with several versions of planes like the spit noone has actually com up with a valid reason as to why any of these option cant be in the game........... i know im focused on the hellcat but there are other aircraft that could use the rest of there versions......  would just give more variety to the game. maybe get people to fly other aircraft.   

[waystin2]

I have no problem with adding a night fighter to the game.  Since we do not have true night, there is no way to take advantage of the radar capabilities though.  I guess it could be used in situations where radar is down or an enemy cons location is not exactly known.  Maybe adding the options that this airplane has a perked ordnance situation might be a better avenue.

[Saxman]

if you read up on the f6f-5n youd find out that only the radar equipped version was the night fighter.

This was the purpose of the "N" designation.

F6F-5N. F4U-4N. F4U-5N. "N" meant it was a Night Fighter. The only exceptions were the F4U-2, which I think was before they started using the "N" designation, and I believe the F7F because they were ALL radar-equipped.

If it was an F6F-5N it was a radar-equipped night fighter. PERIOD. Otherwise it was the same airframe as the F6F-5. And as Krusty pointed out, only a handful even mounted the 20mm. Most retained the all-machine gun package.