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Re: Find the weed...
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2009, 01:48:13 PM »

I've had police knock on my door twice after doing flyovers of the area using FLIR, and after looking at our electric bill. Ask me politely if they could inspect the premises, and were a phone call away from procuring a warrant.  I've been aware that this happens with large coral tanks in private residences, so I said "Go for it." They walked into my living room, and saw the 180 gallon reef tank that is built into 6 feet (4 metal halide bulbs @250 watts each,  plus another 500 watts of power compacts) of my living room wall, oogled at my fish and corals, for 15 minutes, and turned around and walked out the door.

Why they had to do it twice, is beyond me.  Guess they liked my corals.



i'd have made em get the warrant.
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Re: Find the weed...
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2009, 01:52:30 PM »

I've had police knock on my door twice after doing flyovers of the area using FLIR, and after looking at our electric bill. Ask me politely if they could inspect the premises, and were a phone call away from procuring a warrant.  I've been aware that this happens with large coral tanks in private residences, so I said "Go for it." They walked into my living room, and saw the 180 gallon reef tank that is built into 6 feet (4 metal halide bulbs @250 watts each,  plus another 500 watts of power compacts) of my living room wall, oogled at my fish and corals, for 15 minutes, and turned around and walked out the door.

Why they had to do it twice, is beyond me.  Guess they liked my corals.



I would like to see pix of that tank.
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Re: Find the weed...
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2009, 02:02:43 PM »
No offense but you should really make them get the warrant.

They've found some very large grow operations doing this but for a small personal grow the 500 watt power pull isn't going to trip a red flag.

If they have the warrant you've already messed up somewhere else...
Exactly, you already mess up and they're onto you.  What do you know about personal grow and a 500 watt power pull huh?  Do I need to notify the authorities in Wake Co. sir?  J/K but I may come down to see you  :t  Just kidding, with my job now I can't do it.
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Re: Find the weed...
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2009, 02:19:09 PM »
They would have nothing to find in my house.  Shame that you would call someone out encouraging others to avoid the black market though, it's the root of almost all our current drug crimes in the USA.
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Re: Find the weed...
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2009, 02:40:15 PM »
Curse you Google!!!

Yeah.. google should mind its own gd business!!!  :mad:

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Re: Find the weed...
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2009, 03:53:52 PM »
i'd have made em get the warrant.

The extra 4 minutes for them to get a warrant,  and the now, closer and more thorough search they would then perform in my home, wasn't worth the time I had in the day.  Constitutionality aside, it was easier to just let them in and go "Duh! WOW! Nice tank!", than to be a jackoff and say "Take the three minutes for a warrant...I'll make popcorn..." and deal with two hours of BS after the fact. 

Life, in my estimation, is all about picking your battles.  That wasn't even close to one of em.

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Re: Find the weed...
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2009, 03:58:45 PM »
I would like to see pix of that tank.

I'll post some later.
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Re: Find the weed...
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2009, 04:00:08 PM »

I've had police knock on my door twice after doing flyovers of the area using FLIR, and after looking at our electric bill. Ask me politely if they could inspect the premises, and were a phone call away from procuring a warrant.  I've been aware that this happens with large coral tanks in private residences, so I said "Go for it." They walked into my living room, and saw the 180 gallon reef tank that is built into 6 feet (4 metal halide bulbs @250 watts each,  plus another 500 watts of power compacts) of my living room wall, oogled at my fish and corals, for 15 minutes, and turned around and walked out the door.

Why they had to do it twice, is beyond me.  Guess they liked my corals.




YIKES!

I'd tell 'em to go get their flippin' warrant!

Power bills may be a a partial indication of weed growing at a perticular residence, but any judge worth a flip will need far more reasonable evidence than that before signing a warrant.  Maybe in some podunk county somewhere...I've heard of that in Alabama, but most anywhere else a judge would get fried in the press for issuing warrants on such flimsy pretense.

Saying they were "a phone call away from a warrant" = "all we have is a few power bills, and no other proof whatsover, and a judge won't sign the warrant".


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Re: Find the weed...
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2009, 04:24:17 PM »
The extra 4 minutes for them to get a warrant,  and the now, closer and more thorough search they would then perform in my home, wasn't worth the time I had in the day.  Constitutionality aside, it was easier to just let them in and go "Duh! WOW! Nice tank!", than to be a jackoff and say "Take the three minutes for a warrant...I'll make popcorn..." and deal with two hours of BS after the fact. 

Life, in my estimation, is all about picking your battles.  That wasn't even close to one of em.



With nothing to hide why waste their time and yours. I'm sure they had a good laugh and was impressed by the tank setup. Sometimes you can make friends in some of the most unusal ways.
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Re: Find the weed...
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2009, 04:40:17 PM »
The extra 4 minutes for them to get a warrant,  and the now, closer and more thorough search they would then perform in my home, wasn't worth the time I had in the day.  Constitutionality aside, it was easier to just let them in and go "Duh! WOW! Nice tank!", than to be a jackoff and say "Take the three minutes for a warrant...I'll make popcorn..." and deal with two hours of BS after the fact. 

Life, in my estimation, is all about picking your battles.  That wasn't even close to one of em.



very true. i only based that on the fact that they were actually looking at your electric bill, which is none of their business to begin with. then top that off with the fact that there was a 50% chance they were bluffing you with the warrant thing.
 it just seems like another one of those little steps.
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Re: Find the weed...
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2009, 06:37:12 PM »


With Backscatter X Rays they can just look inside whenever they want
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Re: Find the weed...
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2009, 08:14:02 PM »
The extra 4 minutes for them to get a warrant,  and the now, closer and more thorough search they would then perform in my home, wasn't worth the time I had in the day.  Constitutionality aside, it was easier to just let them in and go "Duh! WOW! Nice tank!", than to be a jackoff and say "Take the three minutes for a warrant...I'll make popcorn..." and deal with two hours of BS after the fact. 

Life, in my estimation, is all about picking your battles.  That wasn't even close to one of em.



Takes 'em a lot longer than 4 minutes to get a warrant..  Also, if you force them to obtain a warrant, you'll guarantee yourself a quite "thorough" search with couch cushions sliced open, dressers pulled out and dumped all over the floor, walls torn down or broken, and possibly items that you own as well as cash end up missing (digital cameras are quite popular with crooked cops these days).  Kinda sucks that you can't win either way...  And if they don't find anything, oh well....  You're dealing with a completely trashed house, and they've got a hilarious story to tell their buddies at the doughnut shop..  Funny how it works when you actually make cops do their jobs, isn't it? 
I have a hard time respecting cops these days..  When I come to know them personally and they are actually decent people, that's one thing..
However, I'm sorry to say that most I've come to know enjoy the power they wield way too much and I find myself fortunate to be their friend as opposed to someone else they pull over
or have a run in with.. 
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Re: Find the weed...
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2009, 09:34:36 PM »
Make them get a warrant. If they ask if you can inspect your house and you say yes or no it is considered probable cause. So always ask for a warrant. I'm not a lawyer but a wingie, Jarbo, had asked his attorney friend a similar question.


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Re: Find the weed...
« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2009, 10:23:00 PM »
The extra 4 minutes for them to get a warrant,  and the now, closer and more thorough search they would then perform in my home, wasn't worth the time I had in the day.  Constitutionality aside, it was easier to just let them in and go "Duh! WOW! Nice tank!", than to be a jackoff and say "Take the three minutes for a warrant...I'll make popcorn..." and deal with two hours of BS after the fact. 

Life, in my estimation, is all about picking your battles.  That wasn't even close to one of em.



A nice display of common sense.
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Re: Find the weed...
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2009, 07:29:20 AM »
where is the google that zooms in that close that you can determine plant type?
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