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Offline DREDIOCK

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Re: Keyloggers
« Reply #45 on: February 03, 2009, 08:08:16 PM »
While it could be stealing, I doubt someone here is that stupid.
More likely options would be if an employee(s) is doing something not allowed during the work hours, or a child is accessing sites not appropriate to them.
Almost sounds like he wants proof of something (hence wanting pictures and wanting it to be hidden).


You forgot another possibility
Spouce doing inappropriate things on the computer.

Orrr one spouce may be doing something inapproperiate and thinks the other spouce may be spying  and wants to know how much he/she knows.

There are more the a few legitimate reasons to want a keylogger for your home or work machines.

Its when you want a keylogger for other peoples machines where most of the problems of privacy lie
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« Reply #46 on: February 03, 2009, 10:15:29 PM »
Totally agreed.

I do not advocate invasion of another citizens privacy.

Fortunately, my kids aren't old enough for this rule to apply as they are still under age and under my roof.

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« Reply #47 on: February 04, 2009, 07:32:34 AM »
I'd stay away from Keyloggers. It's like a cliff you don't want to be near. If you suspect, truly suspect something is in the works I would hire a detective agency. I'm starting to get some suspicions what this is about through all the dodging around. Any Marital problems going on here? Well I can tell you this, no matter what you have done with good intentions are how benign it will be used against you. If it's because you have games on your computer they will use that too. Anything everything! If someone is snooping on your computer it is probably because they are doing something wrong and seek to justify it by saying you did he same thing.

However, this is all conjecture. I'm only going by experience. I sincerely hope this is not the case.
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« Reply #48 on: February 04, 2009, 08:07:25 AM »
I'd stay away from Keyloggers. It's like a cliff you don't want to be near. If you suspect, truly suspect something is in the works I would hire a detective agency. I'm starting to get some suspicions what this is about through all the dodging around. Any Marital problems going on here? Well I can tell you this, no matter what you have done with good intentions are how benign it will be used against you. If it's because you have games on your computer they will use that too. Anything everything! If someone is snooping on your computer it is probably because they are doing something wrong and seek to justify it by saying you did he same thing.

However, this is all conjecture. I'm only going by experience. I sincerely hope this is not the case.


Calm down people, the OP is a teenager and was wondering how to track someone (Mom or Dad most likely) messing with his computer. My guess is he was messing with a couple of pict..... umm things he shouldn't have been and was hoping nobody was going to catch him.

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« Reply #49 on: February 04, 2009, 08:14:14 AM »

Calm down people, the OP is a teenager and was wondering how to track someone (Mom or Dad most likely) messing with his computer. My guess is he was messing with a couple of pict..... umm things he shouldn't have been and was hoping nobody was going to catch him.

I guess the days of Playboy's under the mattress, etc are going the way of the Dodo.      :devil

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Re: Keyloggers
« Reply #50 on: February 04, 2009, 09:35:15 AM »

Calm down people, the OP is a teenager and was wondering how to track someone (Mom or Dad most likely) messing with his computer. My guess is he was messing with a couple of pict..... umm things he shouldn't have been and was hoping nobody was going to catch him.

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« Reply #51 on: February 04, 2009, 11:41:59 AM »
Porn never caused me any harm. If I had kids as long as they weren't looking at really weird watermelon or filling my computers with viruses I'm not sure I would care.

A teenage boy is going to fap no matter what you do. Looking at some gash on your computer screen isn't going to change anything.

My thoughts exactly. 

The other option here is to leave all the computers in public space, as there are many benefits to be had. 
1.  Not going to need to worry about any of above mentioned issues, as long as you are home.  When you're not home, other kids aren't going to be at your house anyway (shouldnt be, anyway) ....so really it comes down to an issue between your child and you.
2.  Even if the kid is playing video games, still keeping them in public space creates more social interaction than letting them hole up in the bedroom.
2A.  If doing something productive, you can more easily offer assistance, if they need it.  (homework, etc)

I was raised with NOTHING cool in my bedroom.  No tv, no computer, no radio...just my clothes and some books :)  This forced me to spend time in the living areas of the house, and created a much healthier environment, to be quite honest.  Also, it meant that being sent to my room actually was a punishment.  Now you can argue that your kids can earn the priveledge of having the comp. in their room...but I think you can just as easily provide alternative rewards.  I very much intend on leaving any/all computers in public space when I have kids, as it eliminates many potential problems.

As for your keylogger...there is no legitimate reason for a teenage kid to need one.  End of story.  I realize this is blasphemy...but try communicating with whoever you aren't trusting in this instance.   :aok

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« Reply #52 on: February 04, 2009, 12:14:59 PM »
I was raised with NOTHING cool in my bedroom.  No tv, no computer, no radio...just my clothes and some books :)  ...

As for your keylogger...there is no legitimate reason for a teenage kid to need one.  End of story.  I realize this is blasphemy...but try communicating with whoever you aren't trusting in this instance.   :aok

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I agree on the keylogger.
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« Reply #53 on: February 04, 2009, 12:24:21 PM »
FUGITIVE: Did you know that KIDS HAVE ACCESS TO AND USE WORKAROUNDS for cleaning all history, E-mails, and Messenger files? Even bypassing filters you may have installed on a given machine. Remember you are not dealing with just your kids. They are exposed to How many Kids at school who as a group are better informed than you are about workarounds. Having them in their rooms is completely irresponsible as a parent. I am amazed the lack of parental control some parents exercise when it comes to computers. In my home, if one of my kids are going over or visiting a friends I go over and meet the parents along with asking what kind of access they have on the computer. If the computer is in a private area, like a bedroom No visit will happen in that house. It is our job to protect our children from what exist out there for as long as they are juveniles.

I AM NOT writing this to chastise you and your parenting, I wrote this to stimulate some thought. My statements about parenting are General statements.

FOR WHY SPIKES needs a key logger I hope he has a god reason. Its not our business why. If  we want to help, then help. If not then don't.

KIDS ARE NOT TO BE OUR BEST FRIENDS. WE are parents first. A wonderful loving relationship will grow beyond any friendship if as a parent, we Hold that line. For those that do not have that I really feel for you. Is a great place to be with your children.

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WOW... someone else like me out there,

when I was a young kid my "dad" would tell me to "go play in traffic"  (no lie)

now that I have the kids I do, I cant understand how people just let there kids go where ever they want, no flippin way, I know whats out in that world, and my kids are not gonna have to deal with the crap I did.

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« Reply #54 on: February 04, 2009, 06:35:35 PM »
now that I have the kids I do, I cant understand how people just let there kids go where ever they want, no flippin way, I know whats out in that world, and my kids are not gonna have to deal with the crap I did.


[hijack] I have one of those fathers. His only rules are: Do well in school, don't get arrested, and don't get anyone pregnant. He's one of the most hands-off people I've ever seen, and while at times it really confuses me, I can sort of see where it comes from. From my perspective (as a teenager) and from the way my dad has explained it to me, what's the harm in finding your way into a bit of qeustionable material every now and then? Honestly, in my opinion (Though I will admit, this will probably change if I ever have kids) if a teen is getting straight 'A's in school, he hasn't been arrested, isn't mixed up with the wrong crowd, etc., whats wrong with watching porn on the internet? I'm not fond of it personally, which may be why my dad doesn't really fret over what I do on the internet, but is there really any harm in it? Now, if a child is using the internet and hacking computers, or gambling, that's a WHOLE other story. But even things like internet poker can be perfectly fine. I've used PokerStars.net with my father (He loves playing online poker, though never with real money). I play a bit here and there, and I'm not very good at it, but its hurting no one, and I know better than to put real money on any card game. Maybe its because I don't use the computer for much but Aces High and other games, but I really don't see much harm in letting kids look around, if they're doing well in school and life, obviously they can be trusted to make at least decent decisions when it comes to what internet sites to look at. But that's just me.

As far as putting the computer in the family room, I do agree with that. At my dad's house, I have a computer in my room, and as a result, I really don't spend much time with him. He has his computer, I have mine, and basically we see each other at meals and on the drive to and from school. I feel bad not spending more time with him, but there's never much reason to. Keeping the computer in a public area helps give the family a reason to spend time with each other when they have nothing else in common. [/hijack]

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Re: Keyloggers
« Reply #55 on: February 04, 2009, 07:27:17 PM »

Calm down people, the OP is a teenager and was wondering how to track someone (Mom or Dad most likely) messing with his computer. My guess is he was messing with a couple of pict..... umm things he shouldn't have been and was hoping nobody was going to catch him.
Frankly, no. I don't know what they're looking for and haven't done anything of the sort on that comp. It's specifically for gaming, heck, I don't even have Office 07 on there.

[hijack] I have one of those fathers. His only rules are: Do well in school, don't get arrested, and don't get anyone pregnant. He's one of the most hands-off people I've ever seen, and while at times it really confuses me, I can sort of see where it comes from. From my perspective (as a teenager) and from the way my dad has explained it to me, what's the harm in finding your way into a bit of qeustionable material every now and then? Honestly, in my opinion (Though I will admit, this will probably change if I ever have kids) if a teen is getting straight 'A's in school, he hasn't been arrested, isn't mixed up with the wrong crowd, etc., whats wrong with watching porn on the internet? I'm not fond of it personally, which may be why my dad doesn't really fret over what I do on the internet, but is there really any harm in it? Now, if a child is using the internet and hacking computers, or gambling, that's a WHOLE other story. But even things like internet poker can be perfectly fine. I've used PokerStars.net with my father (He loves playing online poker, though never with real money). I play a bit here and there, and I'm not very good at it, but its hurting no one, and I know better than to put real money on any card game. Maybe its because I don't use the computer for much but Aces High and other games, but I really don't see much harm in letting kids look around, if they're doing well in school and life, obviously they can be trusted to make at least decent decisions when it comes to what internet sites to look at. But that's just me.

As far as putting the computer in the family room, I do agree with that. At my dad's house, I have a computer in my room, and as a result, I really don't spend much time with him. He has his computer, I have mine, and basically we see each other at meals and on the drive to and from school. I feel bad not spending more time with him, but there's never much reason to. Keeping the computer in a public area helps give the family a reason to spend time with each other when they have nothing else in common. [/hijack]
My father is quite the same way...do good in school, laid back kind of guy. He doesn't care if I drink at all or take shots. Basically, he goes to bed at 8 and I'm free to do whatever I want as long as I want. The only thing that gets him is girls. He's walking past my room every 2 minutes if she's over. I kind of laugh over it.
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« Reply #56 on: February 04, 2009, 07:49:23 PM »
To be honest with you my parent's didn't seem to care where I was or what I was doing.  I was the third and youngest of three brothers (14 and 9 years older than me).  By the time I came along my parents had seen it all and I think they realized that kids will do what kids do so let him and let him learn from it.

I grew up in the country 5 miles from town.  By the time I was 9 I had a snowmobile to get myself around in the winter.  By the time I was 11 I had a 90cc Honda motorcycle and was gone all the time.  I turned out OK but of course I'm much older than you guys are and it was a different time.  Things in the world are a lot more haywire these days and the Internet isn't nessesarily a safe place either.

All I'll say is listen to your parents, keep your wits about you and don't do anything stupid.
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« Reply #57 on: February 05, 2009, 10:34:17 AM »
WOW that is a statement from one without kids..I HOPE..

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« Reply #58 on: February 05, 2009, 11:36:12 AM »
To be honest with you my parent's didn't seem to care where I was or what I was doing.  I was the third and youngest of three brothers (14 and 9 years older than me).  By the time I came along my parents had seen it all and I think they realized that kids will do what kids do so let him and let him learn from it.

I grew up in the country 5 miles from town.  By the time I was 9 I had a snowmobile to get myself around in the winter.  By the time I was 11 I had a 90cc Honda motorcycle and was gone all the time.  I turned out OK but of course I'm much older than you guys are and it was a different time.  Things in the world are a lot more haywire these days and the Internet isn't nessesarily a safe place either.

All I'll say is listen to your parents, keep your wits about you and don't do anything stupid.
Yeah, parents with 3 or more kids don't seem to care and let their kids do whatever they want at a much younger age.
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