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Offline hlbly

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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #60 on: February 02, 2009, 04:59:59 AM »
"You know why Kamikaze attacks was just a very brief chapter in history? Because they're all frikkin DEAD."



Wrong atomic weapons is why they were so short lived .
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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #61 on: February 02, 2009, 05:20:46 AM »
"You know why Kamikaze attacks was just a very brief chapter in history? Because they're all frikkin DEAD."



Wrong atomic weapons is why they were so short lived .
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The fireboming we did in Japan killed waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more people than either of the A-Bombs we dropped.

IIRC the death toll for one night of heavy fire bombing was = to or > than either of Hiro. or Naga.
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a cherypick is killing someone that is currently in a fight with an opponent.

simple as that.

has nothing to do with alt.  (i've picked from below and above and co-e)

got zip to do with how many nme's are there.  (i've picked in a crowded furball and when there were only 3 planes.  me, a friendly and one nme plane)

I have even picked someone when I was in a single ar234 and flew by and lit 'em up w/ my tail guns.

(and I fell for the alt/f4 thing once waaaaaaaaaaaaay back in AirWarrior.  kicked myself for it 'cause I shoulda known better)
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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #62 on: February 02, 2009, 05:39:42 AM »

"The fireboming we did in Japan killed waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more people than either of the A-Bombs we dropped."

Right you are Lute but it was the A-Bombs that ended it . The Japanese had thousands of planes in reserve for the invasion of the home islands , plenty of barely trained pilots as well . I was just pointing out it was not that all the Kamikaze pilots were dead that lead to end of Special Attacks .
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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #63 on: February 02, 2009, 06:36:23 AM »
I have no problem with answering questions in MA, but after first few from same person, it becomes obvious he/she needs to get some real understanding of the game and system.  We have an excellent TA and help system, so why not point them out.  Not only are they good for the game, but they can reduce the 2 weekers that leave out of frustration.

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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #64 on: February 02, 2009, 06:53:47 AM »
Well if you want to encourage someone to go do some lite reading at the netaces or trainer site, by all means do so. Or if they are asking a load of questions to encourage them to head to the TA, please, feel free. Hey, go one better, follow them over there and answer a few of those questions.

But don't tell him Alt f4. Thats no different than hazing or being a bully. And if you look at yourself way down in that dark scary place you call a soul you'll know I'm right.

Just remember, who that pilot is in 6 months, and how he flys and behaves in the arena is directly tied to how you treat him now.
And how well you teach him.

I won't get into the HO or Cherry pick argument. HO's happen, they happened in real life.
If you don't want to die to them learn how to duck or avoid them.  If you want more good fights in the MA then get proactive in teaching people. Just because your not a trainer doesn't mean that you can't help or that the trainers corp won't welcome it.

All we ask is that you treat people with respect, and be very very sure that your giving out correct information.
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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #65 on: February 02, 2009, 07:08:08 AM »
     I truly don't know why it's necessary to justify your tactics to the guy who lost the
fight.  It's not enough that you survived and he/she didn't.  You have to use the right
aircraft with no recognizable advantage and wait til they are ready.

     Not sure about the rest of you, but if I see a shot...I'm gonna take it.  About the only
exceprion to the rule is that when I see a bad guy getting pigpiled, I generally look for
something a bit more challenging.  If that means I have to live with your disdain, so be it.

     
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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #66 on: February 02, 2009, 08:01:36 AM »
agree with krusty and murdr - a (cherry)pick has nothing to do with the guy being engaged - its just selecting a target based on your own criteria (easiest usually). bouncing a guy who is already engaged I call "clearing your teammate" or "killstealing" depending on who has the advantage :)

alt-f4 is a rite of passage, if you get upset by it you probably dont have enough of "the right stuff." or a sense of humour. plus its funny :lol

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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #67 on: February 02, 2009, 09:28:52 AM »
Holmes you misinterpted murdr. A pick is killing a target who is already engaged with a con or cons other than you. That's it. Its a long standing definition that will not be changed simply because some noobs weren't around when it was coined.  That said, everybody picks in the ma,  everybody does.
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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #68 on: February 02, 2009, 09:31:04 AM »
     I truly don't know why it's necessary to justify your tactics to the guy who lost the
fight.  It's not enough that you survived and he/she didn't.  You have to use the right
aircraft with no recognizable advantage and wait til they are ready.

     Not sure about the rest of you, but if I see a shot...I'm gonna take it.  About the only
exceprion to the rule is that when I see a bad guy getting pigpiled, I generally look for
something a bit more challenging.  If that means I have to live with your disdain, so be it.


My sentiment exactly.

The difference between games and real life being that irl people don't come back to whine about it.

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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #69 on: February 02, 2009, 09:42:06 AM »
1. why do a few of you think its funny to say alt f4 to any question by a new player. This game needs new players to grow and help htc build a better platform.

This one is so old it surprises me that people still say it, and they even think it is funny.  Yeah, maybe it was funny the first 1000 times someone said it.
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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #70 on: February 02, 2009, 09:46:10 AM »


But don't tell him Alt f4. Thats no different than hazing or being a bully. And if you look at yourself way down in that dark scary place you call a soul you'll know I'm right.

Just remember, who that pilot is in 6 months, and how he flys and behaves in the arena is directly tied to how you treat him now.
And how well you teach him.




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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #71 on: February 02, 2009, 10:18:54 AM »
Well isn't that why the TA and trainers exist?  so the new ones dont clog up our text buffer with stupid questions?  Theres a wiki page and help files out there that anyone with 1/2 a brain can read and will stop 90% of thier questions....people are just too impatient and won'd do anything for themselves.
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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #72 on: February 02, 2009, 10:22:26 AM »
Holmes you misinterpted murdr. A pick is killing a target who is already engaged with a con or cons other than you. That's it. Its a long standing definition that will not be changed simply because some noobs weren't around when it was coined.  That said, everybody picks in the ma,  everybody does.

murdr used a similar definition to me, which predates computers, let alone AH. some AH players have decided to redefine picking as "an engaged con" which is fine, I'll stick with the original definition :)
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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #73 on: February 02, 2009, 10:31:58 AM »
Bingo.

I usually try to put my nose high or low when a con comes traight at me to indicate that i wont HO. If he then does not point his plane in the oposite direction (ie slightly up if i go down) to indicate the same i know his intent is to continue the HO and i will then do the same.

Why don't you just roll out of it and get on his six?

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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #74 on: February 02, 2009, 10:35:23 AM »
Some folks get confused as to someone calling out a HO'er and someone whining about them. I will always point out someone hoing for those looking for a good fight. We don't want to waste our time on someone who can't give us a decent fight after all. I have found that those who ho will call it whining trying to cover their embarrassment I guess. In any case it doesn't hurt to let others know so they wont waste their time on him or her.
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