too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.

[Steve]

Good manners? 

In the DA? YES

In the MA? NO


Why? Because the DA is there for just that purpose. (doh!) The MA is there to pit players against eachother on a grand scale of war. So if I shoot down a bandit who's on my buddy's six... I just saved him from being shot down. Then some idiots have the nerve to complain about it. Well I have news to you... you are in the WRONG arena.


Why do people refuse to understand this very simple principle and facts of AH arenas?

Your facts are wrong. It's pretty much always been this way in the MA's.  Quakers like you were brought up without any sense of this.  That's your problem not mine. If you want to ba a jerk and bust a 1v1 without asking fine but it is only polite to inquire first. It's just plain rude to pick a guy whom your teammate may have just spent a good 3 or 4 minutes to get a good gun solution on. Your ilk have little concept of consideration and manners, however.

[thrila]

I cannot understand why consideration towards others is rediculed.

[Lusche]

There is no I in TEAM.

You don't really think what Murdr descibes is being treamplay in an way?

Here's the funny thing.  I'll invest minutes into coaxing the E advantage out of a bad guy that everyone else in the area is trying to avoid like the plague.  After putting all that effort in and getting the tables turned, players with your attitude are more than happy to come swarming in and leech of of someone elses effort.  

[CAP1]

Your facts are wrong. It's pretty much always been this way in the MA's.  Quakers like you were brought up without any sense of this.  That's your problem not mine. If you want to ba a jerk and bust a 1v1 without asking fine but it is only polite to inquire first. It's just plain rude to pick a guy whom your teammate may have just spent a good 3 or 4 minutes to get a good gun solution on. Your ilk have little concept of consideration and manners, however.

ACTUALLY,
one thing i will, and do make a point of.......if someone busts up a fight i'm having, i will not ever help them when they ask...and they ALWAYS ask for help eventually. i simply fly by, and may or may not on open channel tell the bogie that i'm staying out.
 sounds messed up i know, but if the guy can't show me a common courtesey, then  all i can do is return his favor in kind. 

[CAP1]

You don't really think what Murdr descibes is being treamplay in an way?

there ya go trying to be reasonable, and use common sense again. 


be quiet and drink your brawndo. it has electrolytes. 

[33Vortex]

Typically when I see a 1v1 it's a friendly in a defensive fight down low. I always like to be smart about my flying in order to survive so more often than not I'll be on top of this fight flying in another direction but observing the fight. If the guy is in trouble, I'll go in and help him out but many times I tell the guy I'm on the way. Usually I get no reply because (I'm assuming) he has no mic. So I come in help him out and he's a happy guy returning to base.

Or, I keep flying to find a good fight since the guy in the little fight down there finished off his opponent.



THAT is what usually happens in my experience. The guys who get mad for recieving help, not having the SA to see I'm around in the first place, are just idiots imo.

It has happened that the friendly ask me to stay out of it in which case I do.

[33Vortex]

ACTUALLY,
one thing i will, and do make a point of.......if someone busts up a fight i'm having, i will not ever help them when they ask...and they ALWAYS ask for help eventually. i simply fly by, and may or may not on open channel tell the bogie that i'm staying out.
 sounds messed up i know, but if the guy can't show me a common courtesey, then  all i can do is return his favor in kind. 

Now that is just being an a-hole.

If someone is asking for help I always do if the tactical situation allow me to. Meaning that if it doesn't mean certain death to me I will.

[4deck]

I gotta go shoot something, read this later

[NoBaddy]

There is no I in TEAM.

Hmm, I don't see anyone demanding that all fights in the MA be 1v1. I do see some folks asking for a little common courtesy. BTW, anyone that thinks that courtesy only applies in the DA....needs to buy the new WHAMMO Clue Rake...only $59.95 at www.imadummy.com (say "HI" to Steeph when you get there )!!!

BTW, you are correct..there isn't an "I" in team. However, there is one in stupId!!

[CAP1]

Now that is just being an a-hole.

If someone is asking for help I always do if the tactical situation allow me to. Meaning that if it doesn't mean certain death to me I will.

YES, IT IS......

but then so was the guy that busted up my fight,.........especially if i asked him to stay out, which i usually do.

 ya get what ya give. treat me with respect, ya get it back. eff up my fun, and you're screwed. 


i can think of a good way to simplify this.

you expect me to come help you, when asked, if i'd been working a con for a bit, then you swoop in and take the kill.
 if you walked into my shop, and whacked me in the face, would you expect anything other than to wake up in the hospital tomorrow? like a greting with a smile?

 see the point?
 

[Shuffler]

Well, most guys that spend time looking for a 1vs1 should really go to the DA, it's what it's there for. Why disrupt gameplay in the MA with your little bubble of a 1vs1? As if that wasn't enough, you have also the nerve to complain about someone else busting in on your fight?

Sorry but, it doesn't make sense, at all. Period, end of story.

Next time, people who want to duel, do log in to the Dueling Arena instead.

TY

Interesting.... so you just go for any kill for a kill. You interrupt game play by inyterrupting their fun in a 1 vs 1 to get a kill you did not earn?? Don't see how that can be fun. There are plenty of planes to go around... that is if your looking for a fight. On the other hand if your just looking for a kill and to interfere with other's game play I guess you have that down pat.

[33Vortex]

Interesting.... so you just go for any kill for a kill. You interrupt game play by inyterrupting their fun in a 1 vs 1 to get a kill you did not earn?? Don't see how that can be fun. There are plenty of planes to go around... that is if your looking for a fight. On the other hand if your just looking for a kill and to interfere with other's game play I guess you have that down pat.

That is the logic of someone wanting a fight.

You clearly have not read all of my posts, or do not understand what I'm saying.

[VonMessa]

Just to state my opinion (and yes, I know which bodily orifice that opinions are compared to)..........

Flying in the MA, and expecting a 1v1 is almost fantasy.  It almost never happens.  Someone will usually jump right in, regardless of a request not to, and usually without saying a damn thing.  It could be my own fault for not being faster a killing, but I like to set up a nice shot before I pull the trigger so as to not waste ammo, but that's me

Yes, it would be nice, but again, I don't expect it.  I find that if I expect all of the  "taboo" behavior, I am more pleasantly surprised when it DOESN'T happen, as opposed to getting pissed if it does.

Just as an example:  It has been quite a while since I have been "picked" by surprise, because I am always looking around, and if there is another plane who is in a position to pick me while I am engaged, I will not fixate on the target in front of me.

[CAP1]

Just to state my opinion (and yes, I know which bodily orifice that opinions are compared to)..........

Flying in the MA, and expecting a 1v1 is almost fantasy.  It almost never happens.  Someone will usually jump right in, regardless of a request not to, and usually without saying a damn thing.  It could be my own fault for not being faster a killing, but I like to set up a nice shot before I pull the trigger so as to not waste ammo, but that's me

Yes, it would be nice, but again, I don't expect it.  I find that if I expect all of the  "taboo" behavior, I am more pleasantly surprised when it DOESN'T happen, as opposed to getting pissed if it does.

Just as an example:  It has been quite a while since I have been "picked" by surprise, because I am always looking around, and if there is another plane who is in a position to pick me while I am engaged, I will not fixate on the target in front of me.

what i try to do if i really want a 1-1 is to talk to the guy, and go to a non-populated part of the map. this works pretty well actually

[NoBaddy]

Flying in the MA, and expecting a 1v1 is almost fantasy.  It almost never happens. 

Which explains why some folks get annoyed with people that cherry pick their fight.