Does anybody have more information on this?

[Klauss]

I've changed my mind on what 109G6 skin to make, but in order to get in in the game, i need more information on this if anybody can recognize this plane. This is all the information i have on it: "Bf 109 G-6AS “green 5” from 2.Erg. JG 2, Hagenow, Autumn 1944". I looked up many hours on the internet for it ( for the real plane ), didn't found anything. The plane has some sort of nose art, a yellow owl on a blue background. Maybe somebody can recognize it. I would apreciate all the help! <S> 

[USRanger]

No info on the plane for ya, but I saw in the other thread you needed panel line help with the G-6.  Here's what I got for ya:

[AWwrgwy]

http://hsfeatures.com/features04/bf109g6asgreen5fw_1.htm

Same article, more pics(?)

http://www.ipmsusa2.org/reviews/Archive/Kits/Aircraft/Monogram_48_Bf109G6/Monogram_48_Bf109G6.htm

This is where the decal sheet came from:

http://www.luftfahrtverlag-start.de/EHomepage/DecalsEnglischOther/decalsenglischother.html


So far I can neither find the pictures the modeler referred to nor a profile anywhere.


wrongway

[Klauss]

   USRanger, thank you for the picture, i had something very close. Wrongway, i'm stuck with the same 2 websites, i knew about the decals, but i just can't find where did that nose art came from (what JG). I am still looking for info on the plane. Nothing so far.

[Serenity]

   USRanger, thank you for the picture, i had something very close. Wrongway, i'm stuck with the same 2 websites, i knew about the decals, but i just can't find where did that nose art came from (what JG). I am still looking for info on the plane. Nothing so far.

Open the file I sent you with the various JG emblems. See if you find one in there that matches.

[AWwrgwy]

Getting Closer


http://www.owl.cz/pictures/max_navod_72004.jpg




wrongway

[Klauss]

Good Job! Yes we are my friend! Think this plane is some sort of night based fighter (squad art is "yellow owl on dark blue background=dark sky/night), maybe that why the plane is all black. Look at the title of that link . And seems there were other type of planes in this "all black" sqd. Serenity gave me a pretty much complete list of sqd insignia, no yellow owl on blue background  , maybe it was some sort of special sqd frome late in the war, or didn't have much action, that's my only explenation i can think ( in why we can't find real-life data on the plane ). Still, we are gettig close wrongway .Nice job once again!

[oakranger]

It looks like it belongs to Nachtjagdgeschwader 1.  But they had 109E-4

[Klauss]

Very interesting website http://images.google.ro/imgres?imgurl=http://www.michael-reimer.com/CFS2/CFS2_Profiles/ETO_AXIS_Luftwaffe_NJG1-Dateien/Messerschmitt_Bf_109E-4_G9JV_400x150.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.michael-reimer.com/CFS2/CFS2_Profiles/ETO_AXIS_Luftwaffe_NJG1.html&usg=__UArGhb0nSUGihhMrKlZjCdlR-PM=&h=150&w=400&sz=29&hl=ro&start=200&um=1&tbnid=nMdOpdL30hXTgM:&tbnh=47&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dme%2B109%2Bgreen%2B5%2Bnight%2Bfighter%26start%3D189%26ndsp%3D21%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dro%26sa%3DN . From what i understood, they took "normal" daylight planes, and did a 2 small things to make them night fighters, paint them black and have a letter or a number painted green. If somebody "saw" something i missed...i would be happy to know.

[oakranger]

Very interesting website http://images.google.ro/imgres?imgurl=http://www.michael-reimer.com/CFS2/CFS2_Profiles/ETO_AXIS_Luftwaffe_NJG1-Dateien/Messerschmitt_Bf_109E-4_G9JV_400x150.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.michael-reimer.com/CFS2/CFS2_Profiles/ETO_AXIS_Luftwaffe_NJG1.html&usg=__UArGhb0nSUGihhMrKlZjCdlR-PM=&h=150&w=400&sz=29&hl=ro&start=200&um=1&tbnid=nMdOpdL30hXTgM:&tbnh=47&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dme%2B109%2Bgreen%2B5%2Bnight%2Bfighter%26start%3D189%26ndsp%3D21%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dro%26sa%3DN . From what i understood, they took "normal" daylight planes, and did a 2 small things to make them night fighters, paint them black and have a letter or a number painted green. If somebody "saw" something i missed...i would be happy to know.

Thats where i get the info to. 

[Motherland]

Erg. is an abbreviation for Ergänzungsgruppe. This aircraft seems to have been part of a training unit attached to JG2. Not sure why it would be black.
Night fighter units were quite simply 'NJG', 'Nachtjagdgeschwader', 'Night Fighter Wing'.

Edit; you know it's 3AM when you type 'Jagergeschwader'

[Klauss]

Ok, new info, i'll use that right now, see what i can find. Thank you.

[oakranger]

Erg. is an abbreviation for Ergänzungsgruppe. This aircraft seems to have been part training unit attached to JG2. Maybe a night fighting training unit.

AH, i was wondering what "Erg." stood for.  But Jg2 never have 109G in 44', They only flew them in 42-43.  By 44-45 they where flying 190A,D

http://www.ww2.dk/air/jagd/jg2.htm

[Klauss]

If what you say is 100% accurat with real-life, then "Bf 109 G-6AS “green 5” from 2.Erg. JG 2, Hagenow, Autumn 1944" is useless. The truth is it has no "bumps", May the decal manufacturer got it wrong? and it's in fact a whole other variant? F,G (not g6)?

[oakranger]

It is real.  Found two decal site that has that exact info. As far as the other sites, nothing on Jg2 flying in 109G-6.   However, you may have problem getting that skin on AH unless you can find documentation on it.