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Re: RUMOR... NEW PLANE PBY BLACK CATS!
« Reply #45 on: April 03, 2009, 12:40:05 PM »
Great.

We need another aircraft.  But it has to be an AMERICAN aircraft, of course.   :rolleyes:

Let's forget about the really quality aircraft the axis powers haven't yet been given.  The Me-410, G.55 etc.

Axis bombers are poorly represented, as are allied early and midwar tanks.  See Tunisia, where panzers are fighting panzers in a scenario.
One of the most produced Axis tanks, the Panther isn't in the game.

But no, let's rally for a POS recon bird that can land in water, with a top speed under that of a C47, who's only offensive prowess was against submarines (which we don't have in AH) and at night against Japanese light transports. 

This thread must be a joke.  lol
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Re: RUMOR... NEW PLANE PBY BLACK CATS!
« Reply #46 on: April 03, 2009, 01:00:40 PM »
Yeah, I was going to say something but figured "why ruin their thread"? That and I do admire the plane and always did. As a strictly historical addition it would be pretty cool but game wise?

First off a Goon does out climb it and out run it and even if we did have submarines who in heck is going to tool around for hours at a time, at 190 mph, looking for one? And CV-wise? Seeing this big turkey floating into a CV group to drop a torp/ords would resemble a chicken special lunch at the Gator farm.

And I know if I go down in the water, no matter how pretty it looks, I'm just going to ditch and get a new airplane. I sure as heck aint going to sit paddling on the off chance a pal survives long enough to pick me up after a 40 min wait.

It was a great airplane for its time and place but that doesn't mean it would flourish in a computer game. Not when we have only one perk bomber right now, no Russian level bomber, and no Betty or HE-111 . So while I  :salute the PBY , its crews and its history, I also think it would be a Queen in drag if brought into Aces High. I'm sorry but thats the truth.
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Re: RUMOR... NEW PLANE PBY BLACK CATS!
« Reply #47 on: April 03, 2009, 02:31:51 PM »
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The PBY was originally designed to be a patrol bomber, an aircraft with a long operational range intended to locate and attack enemy transport ships at sea in order to compromise enemy supply lines. With a mind to a potential conflict in the Pacific Ocean, where troops would require resupply over great distances, the U.S. Navy in the 1930s invested millions of dollars in developing long-range flying boats for this purpose. Flying boats had the advantage of not requiring runways, in effect having the entire ocean available. Several different flying boats were adopted by the Navy, but the PBY was the most widely used and produced. PBY riding at sea anchor. Although slow and ungainly, PBYs distinguished themselves in World War II as exceptionally reliable.
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Re: RUMOR... NEW PLANE PBY BLACK CATS!
« Reply #48 on: April 03, 2009, 03:02:08 PM »
Great.

We need another aircraft.  But it has to be an AMERICAN aircraft, of course.   :rolleyes:

Let's forget about the really quality aircraft the axis powers haven't yet been given.  The Me-410

The Me 410 was not a 'quality' aircraft.  Yes, it was an improvement over the Me-210 but it still suffered the same issues as the Bf-110.  Totally outclassed by single engine fighter aircraft.


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Re: RUMOR... NEW PLANE PBY BLACK CATS!
« Reply #49 on: April 03, 2009, 03:12:07 PM »
The Me 410 was not a 'quality' aircraft.  Yes, it was an improvement over the Me-210 but it still suffered the same issues as the Bf-110.  Totally outclassed by single engine fighter aircraft.


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There isn't a twin engine fighter in the war that wasn't outclassed by singles.  Including the vaunted mosquito.
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Re: RUMOR... NEW PLANE PBY BLACK CATS!
« Reply #50 on: April 03, 2009, 03:53:00 PM »
I dunno, but note how it said "Fixed" much like the ar234's 20mm it would be next to useless. Ill take the .30's on a flexible mount any day.


And while the stats list the gun types and placement of such said guns, i am always more interested in the amount of AMMO per gun.

It has 12 .50's all around it, and 130 rounds per gun, oh yippie for defence. :rock


:EDIT: Watching that cod video, if aces high had turret to turret action like that, where people are inside moving around,and you can go gun to gun, i would never fly a fighter again. What a shame.
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Re: RUMOR... NEW PLANE PBY BLACK CATS!
« Reply #51 on: April 03, 2009, 05:45:21 PM »
There isn't a twin engine fighter in the war that wasn't outclassed by singles.  Including the vaunted mosquito.

Yes there was.  We have 3 variants of them in this game. 


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Re: RUMOR... NEW PLANE PBY BLACK CATS!
« Reply #52 on: April 03, 2009, 06:07:08 PM »
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Re: RUMOR... NEW PLANE PBY BLACK CATS!
« Reply #53 on: April 04, 2009, 10:42:28 AM »
Yes there was.  We have 3 variants of them in this game. 


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Re: RUMOR... NEW PLANE PBY BLACK CATS!
« Reply #54 on: April 04, 2009, 11:30:48 AM »
Yes there was.  We have 3 variants of them in this game. 


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I thought they were "bombers".     :P

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Re: RUMOR... NEW PLANE PBY BLACK CATS!
« Reply #55 on: April 04, 2009, 01:52:17 PM »
I should restate my position to say "twin engine heavy fighter", which is what the 410 was.  I figured those of you with such superior knowledge would automatically know what I meant.

Comparing the P38 to any of them is oranges to apples. 
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Re: RUMOR... NEW PLANE PBY BLACK CATS!
« Reply #56 on: April 04, 2009, 04:11:48 PM »
Being bad shot as I am, I need those slow targets to shoot at  :aok
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Re: RUMOR... NEW PLANE PBY BLACK CATS!
« Reply #57 on: April 05, 2009, 01:55:20 PM »
I dunno, but note how it said "Fixed" much like the ar234's 20mm it would be next to useless. Ill take the .30's on a flexible mount any day.


And while the stats list the gun types and placement of such said guns, i am always more interested in the amount of AMMO per gun.

It has 12 .50's all around it, and 130 rounds per gun, oh yippie for defence. :rock


:EDIT: Watching that cod video, if aces high had turret to turret action like that, where people are inside moving around,and you can go gun to gun, i would never fly a fighter again. What a shame.


BadKarma,the PBY's guns are "fixed" like the B25's,they are nose mounted,not uselessly monted in the tail like a 234

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Re: RUMOR... NEW PLANE PBY BLACK CATS!
« Reply #58 on: October 09, 2009, 10:35:14 PM »
well they should add this plane to the roster itwould be awsome just to wait in some cove and take off on water searching and attacking the enemy fleet

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Re: RUMOR... NEW PLANE PBY BLACK CATS!
« Reply #59 on: October 09, 2009, 10:38:08 PM »
there also advailble on COD5 :)
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