Fix the Wirble

[Spikes]

i get ticked off all the time when the IL 2 's show up!!! the b-25's not so much,
 but i have learned to keep them from behind me, i have learned how to overcome there blatant over powering ability to kill my tigers,   and i didn't have to come here and ask someone to fix it for me, i just figured it out, sounds to me like you got all excited after 13 kills and lost your S.A.   HTC cannot help you with that!!!

Yes, but the IL2 is actually modeled correct, the Wirble is not.

[Lusche]

Yes, but the IL2 is actually modeled correct, the Wirble is not.

I'm not 100% sure about the Il2.. but I can't prove anything, so I don't request a "fix" 

[MjTalon]

I'm not 100% sure about the Il2.. but I can't prove anything, so I don't request a "fix" 

  Got something ya wanna share lusche  ?

[Spikes]

I'm not 100% sure about the Il2.. but I can't prove anything, so I don't request a "fix" 

Indeed. I'm willing to bet the IL2 is better modeled than the Wirble at this point, though.

[Lusche]

Got something ya wanna share lusche  ?

For example I have an account that the 37mm guns were not synconized, so that the plane did massively oszillate around the yaw axis, making shooting more than a 1-2 round burst a waste of ammo. But I do not know if that was only the case with the first prototype or of all planes suffered from it. No sufficient data yet to even request a change.

[waystin2]

Here is an article with supporting documents listed on Lusche's thoughts about IL-2...
http://www.battlefield.ru/content/view/239/123/lang,en/

[WWhiskey]

Yes, but the IL2 is actually modeled correct, the Wirble is not.

really   so how many tigers did the IL 2 kill during the war with its cannons, and are you saying it could maneuver in real life as it does in the game?

[Spikes]

really   so how many tigers did the IL 2 kill during the war with its cannons, and are you saying it could maneuver in real life as it does in the game?

Sorry, said it wrong. Meant to say the IL2's guns are modeled right. Early morning and no coffee.

[Anaxogoras]

My history books tell me that Il-2 pilots did not have the F3 view, which they masterfully use in our game to time their neg-g red-outs perfectly.

[WWhiskey]

My history books tell me that Il-2 pilots did not have the F3 view, which they masterfully use in our game to time their neg-g red-outs perfectly.

lol  i had  a long thought out comeback all planed out, and there you go stealing my thunder   lol
i think the gv's need f-3 mode, after all the tank commander could get out and walk around a bit

[Anaxogoras]

I would rather see F3 view disabled for all aircraft/vehicles.

[moot]

lol  i had  a long thought out comeback all planed out, and there you go stealing my thunder   lol
i think the gv's need f-3 mode, after all the tank commander could get out and walk around a bit

... while being strafed by all sorts of planes and GVs.

[RipChord929]

Tried the F3 thing, could never hit doodly squat with it..
Even tho A20 has it, I divebomb from the pilot seat..
Get rid of F3, I don't care...

Might make life a little easier for gv's tho...
I hear alot of guys that DO use it...

RC

[stroker71]

I believe the f3 view is there to simulate having gunners and only planes that have gunners can use the f3 view.  If your in a formation of bombers and some guy that knows what he is doing you'll never be able to track him without f3.  I bomb with the A20 in the pilot seat too i need the pipper to line the future dead gv up.  F3 view has been used by many to game the game....but to get rid of it would be a bad thing.  With the IL2 as it is now leave the WW as it is and adjust the eny for it. 

[Anaxogoras]

I believe the f3 view is there to simulate having gunners and only planes that have gunners can use the f3 view.  If your in a formation of bombers and some guy that knows what he is doing you'll never be able to track him without f3.  I bomb with the A20 in the pilot seat too i need the pipper to line the future dead gv up.  F3 view has been used by many to game the game....but to get rid of it would be a bad thing.  With the IL2 as it is now leave the WW as it is and adjust the eny for it. 

Why are the gunner positions not sufficient for tracking bandits?  Certainly, they don't work as well as F3 view, but why should something as perspicacious as F3 view be available if you can still see all around the aircraft with the gunner views?