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Offline MrRiplEy[H]

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3rd time strikes gold!
« on: February 17, 2009, 10:46:50 AM »
Just after we finished discussing about the marketing ploy of renaming the old 8800 series as 9800 and selling them as new cards, Nvidia does it again!

The 8800GTX gets another visit of stay, not as 9800GTX but overclocked and branded as GTX260 this time round! Will there be a fourth resurrection? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Re: 3rd time strikes gold!
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2009, 12:39:25 PM »
Quote from: MrRiplEy[H] on February 17, 2009, 10:46:50 AM
Just after we finished discussing about the marketing ploy of renaming the old 8800 series as 9800 and selling them as new cards, Nvidia does it again!

The 8800GTX gets another visit of stay, not as 9800GTX but overclocked and branded as GTX260 this time round! Will there be a fourth resurrection? Inquiring minds want to know.

Wow! As long as that doesn't happen to ATI I will be happy. But maybe they have.

Also, hope they don't resurrect the 8600 in some fashion.
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Re: 3rd time strikes gold!
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2009, 12:47:47 PM »
Do you have a link to a report on this?
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Re: 3rd time strikes gold!
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2009, 01:38:45 PM »
8800 Wasn't a horrible card. Don't see why there's such a fuss about this?
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Re: 3rd time strikes gold!
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2009, 01:43:26 PM »
Both companies have been doing this for years, but I have to admit, NVidia seems to be taking it to new heights lately.  Probably due to poor sales and too much inventory on hand.

ATI/AMD still repackages the original 8500, which started shipping in late 2001!  I cannot imagine the inventory they must have built to still be using that part.

Also, the new GTS-240 from NVidia is a slightly over-clocked 9800GT.
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Re: 3rd time strikes gold!
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2009, 01:48:37 PM »
I am not a manufacturing expert for electronics by any stretch but I can imagine that the card/chip manufacturers have done this repeatedly many times over. I know in the company I work for we have changed the nomenclature of some older material to a new name just to move that inventory into current stocks and sell it at a slightly lower price just to get the material off the books so we can free up some cash and get that money moving again. Plus I am sure that they have to commit to buying so much in raw materials that they need to make it work for them by doing this and using up existing finished products.
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Re: 3rd time strikes gold!
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2009, 05:09:47 PM »
3rd and 4th Quarter Video card sales for 2008 were horrible, and the trend is continuing (obviously).  Should we be surprised by this?
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Re: 3rd time strikes gold!
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2009, 03:03:56 PM »
Is that possible? The 9800GTX has 124 stream processors and the 260 GTX has 216 as a recall, seems like that would take a bit of modifications do add almost 100 stream processors.
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Re: 3rd time strikes gold!
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2009, 03:17:27 PM »
Yeah, I'd also like to see where he read this.

Are you talking the GPU being the same? In which case the card/circuits around it (and other things, maybe streaming processors?) can be changed, indicating it's not *exactly* just the old card re-named.


I mean, it's not like MS and Vista/Windows7, right?
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Re: 3rd time strikes gold!
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2009, 03:18:07 PM »
Quote from: AirFlyer on February 18, 2009, 03:03:56 PM
Is that possible? The 9800GTX has 124 stream processors and the 260 GTX has 216 as a recall, seems like that would take a bit of modifications do add almost 100 stream processors.

Oops my bad it was Geforce 240 and 250 (9800GT, GTX respectively)

http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?news=Mzc5MDAsLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdCwsLDE=
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Re: 3rd time strikes gold!
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2009, 06:49:08 PM »
I've never even seen the 240 or 250 before, just the 260 and 280 and whatever that new one is... 295  think.
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Re: 3rd time strikes gold!
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2009, 09:08:47 PM »
intel's getting on the choo-choo train, "recovering" their processors for resale as odd-cores. oh wait! amd did that already!

first copy the technology from amd (with i7- L3 Cache, the QPI and the integrated mem controller), and now the marketing process.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20090213230851_Intel_Can_Create_Processors_with_Odd_Number_of_Cores_Thanks_to_Recovery_Scheme.html
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Re: 3rd time strikes gold!
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2009, 11:31:46 PM »
Not seeing a problem with Intel doing this, if anything it will likely bring prices down since they'll have more chips to sell.
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Re: 3rd time strikes gold!
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2009, 12:23:07 AM »
The 260 chips are a different size then the 8800 chips.  How can they be brought back to life with different chip sizes?
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Re: 3rd time strikes gold!
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2009, 07:23:38 AM »
Quote from: TilDeath on February 19, 2009, 12:23:07 AM
The 260 chips are a different size then the 8800 chips.  How can they be brought back to life with different chip sizes?

Like I said I confused 250 and 260 when I posted from memory. When I rechecked the link I saw they were speaking about 240 and 250. Nevertheless the 8800 is getting the third time around.
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