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Offline Yeager

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P39D and Q 37mm Cannon with Tracers Disabled
« on: March 01, 2009, 03:20:05 PM »
When I have tracers "Disabled" the 37mm cannon rounds DO produce a tracer when using the P39-Q and DO NOT produce a tracer when using the P39-D.

I prefer to see the 37mm cannon rounds and NOT the MG rounds when tracers are disabled. 

Just thought I would mention that a variation between Ds and Qs with tracers off does occur.
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Re: P39D and Q 37mm Cannon with Tracers Disabled
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2009, 03:21:15 PM »
I believe that one of the two does not have a 37mm in its arsenal.  Could be wrong though.
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Re: P39D and Q 37mm Cannon with Tracers Disabled
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2009, 03:26:49 PM »
Anything above 30 mm will use tracer.

The 39D has a 20mm option.
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Re: P39D and Q 37mm Cannon with Tracers Disabled
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2009, 03:32:32 PM »
Although I never use the 20mm package I went in to MW arena to confirm that the 37mm on the D indeed produces no tracer when tracers are Disabled.  The 37mm on the Q DOES produce the tracer when tracers are disabled.

Maybe one of you guys could go online and see if you get the same result.

Thanks :)
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Re: P39D and Q 37mm Cannon with Tracers Disabled
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2009, 03:44:17 PM »
You are correct sir...and note the rate of fire diff between the 37mm in each ac.
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Re: P39D and Q 37mm Cannon with Tracers Disabled
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2009, 10:55:39 PM »
The gun in the Q is completely different from that in the D. The only thing they share is a caliber of round fired.

I think the reason you cannot disable the tracer on the Q is because it wasn't an option for the pilots in WW2. I recall reading something about every round being a tracer and having a self termination after a certain range (the tracer element burned through into the shell's charge and terminated the round after x seconds).

Could be that HTC has simply modeled this into the game.


or...

could just be a bug  :D
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Re: P39D and Q 37mm Cannon with Tracers Disabled
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2009, 07:16:14 AM »
Erm I believe it is the same gun. The ejector port was modified on later models to help eliminate jamming.
I believe its a sound bug with the ROF not an actual increase in rate.
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Re: P39D and Q 37mm Cannon with Tracers Disabled
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2009, 01:11:07 PM »
Oh, lord no!!

DEFINITELY not the same gun. Even in-game you can see the difference. The D is a turd gun and the Q is a lot straighter in trajectory.

D has a M4 Oldsmobile piece o' crap, but the Q has a T9 or some such. Almost on par with the Yak9Ts main weapon.

Worlds apart.
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Re: P39D and Q 37mm Cannon with Tracers Disabled
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2009, 01:16:54 PM »
Quote from: Krusty on March 02, 2009, 01:11:07 PM
Oh, lord no!!

DEFINITELY not the same gun. Even in-game you can see the difference. The D is a turd gun and the Q is a lot straighter in trajectory.

D has a M4 Oldsmobile piece o' crap, but the Q has a T9 or some such. Almost on par with the Yak9Ts main weapon.

Worlds apart.
The T9 was never in a P-39. If you have documentation to prove otherwise... please post.
Edit: I just tested offline. Pulled cannon to 150 and set target to 800. D and Q virtually identical drop, the yak T however was still hitting center mass. Try it yourself. I'd post pics but photobucket is acting up.
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Re: P39D and Q 37mm Cannon with Tracers Disabled
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2009, 04:12:10 PM »
Then it wasn't the T9. I'm not sure what the name was, but it was a different gun.
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Re: P39D and Q 37mm Cannon with Tracers Disabled
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2009, 05:06:32 PM »
Quote from: Krusty on March 02, 2009, 04:12:10 PM
Then it wasn't the T9. I'm not sure what the name was, but it was a different gun.


Same gun.  Was always a turd gun.  Same 37mm is on the PT Boat too.


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Re: P39D and Q 37mm Cannon with Tracers Disabled
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2009, 07:20:18 PM »
Quote from: Krusty on March 02, 2009, 04:12:10 PM
Then it wasn't the T9. I'm not sure what the name was, but it was a different gun.
Same gun just a modified ejection port. Probably gave it a redesignation.
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Re: P39D and Q 37mm Cannon with Tracers Disabled
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2009, 01:08:46 AM »
I don't think so. I can't be arsed to search the forums but it's been discussed at least briefly.
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Re: P39D and Q 37mm Cannon with Tracers Disabled
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2009, 04:33:41 AM »
P-63 had the M-4 cannon as well.



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Re: P39D and Q 37mm Cannon with Tracers Disabled
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2009, 04:50:32 AM »
Quote from: AWwrgwy on March 03, 2009, 04:33:41 AM
P-63 had the M-4 cannon as well.



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Yup... different feed. IIRC Krusty you are mistaken. Dean's list no change in cannon other than what I've mentioned.
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