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Offline Sincraft

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b26 guns vs lanc?
« on: March 06, 2009, 12:11:43 AM »
Just wondering, I'm noticing a HUGE difference in my ability to shoot people down in lancs vs b26's. 
I LOVE when people chase me in a b26, a few lead shots ...quick squirts and I'm downing plane after plane.

In the lancs, I just sit there like target practice it seems. 

Just now a 109k just tore me a new one as he bobbed and weaved all over.  MY fov showed constant hits while he flew on without so much as a puff of smoke.

In a b26 I would have just watched him for a bit , killed him and continued to eat my cookie...or brownie....or whatever :)

He also looked like he was flying sideways but that's another story...lag...collision code..yada yada ...for another thread.

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Re: b26 guns vs lanc?
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2009, 12:23:08 AM »
B-26, LOTS more ammo in the tail.  Good for spraying all over.  All the turets and guns are .50 cal.  Lanc. only has .50cal in the tail turret.  The remaining are .303s.

More ammo and more firepower in a B-26.  Probably faster too.


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Re: b26 guns vs lanc?
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2009, 03:32:52 AM »
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Re: b26 guns vs lanc?
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2009, 07:21:15 AM »
Put those 2 answers above together and you have it all.

Nicely said guys.

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Re: b26 guns vs lanc?
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2009, 02:43:26 PM »
B-26, LOTS more ammo in the tail.  Good for spraying all over.  All the turets and guns are .50 cal.  Lanc. only has .50cal in the tail turret.  The remaining are .303s.

More ammo and more firepower in a B-26.  Probably faster too.
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How many rounds of .50 in the tail of the B-26 and the Lanc?

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Re: b26 guns vs lanc?
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2009, 08:01:55 PM »
How many rounds of .50 in the tail of the B-26 and the Lanc?

B-26 = 1600 rounds .50 cal.
Lanc = 670 rounds .50 cal.



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Re: b26 guns vs lanc?
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2009, 10:49:19 AM »
The B-26 being much faster, gives a much better opportunity at shooting. The chaser does not close as fast, and cannot weave around you so much when you are doing 330 instead of 250 or so. So, - you get a longer shot from less an angle with tons more ammo to spend.
The top turret matters so-so, since most attacks come from low six.
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Re: b26 guns vs lanc?
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2009, 10:52:43 AM »
The B-26 damage model is also completely bugged in its favor.
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Re: b26 guns vs lanc?
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2009, 12:39:05 PM »
The B-26 damage model is also completely bugged in its favor.
The Lancaster can take quite a bit as well.

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Re: b26 guns vs lanc?
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2009, 02:47:05 PM »
The Lancaster can take quite a bit as well.
Yes, but you can kill the tail gunner in a Lancaster.
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Re: b26 guns vs lanc?
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2009, 03:53:23 PM »
I always wonderd if the closure rate made a big diffrence in the amount of damage a bomber soaks up.



If you fire a .50 cal going almost 250-300mph faster than your target,you have more kenetic impact, however what if the bomber is pulling away at 25+mph from your guns, wouldnt that make the rounds weaker impacting the A/c?


If this is the case, then perhaps the b26 & lancs damage resistances are due to the relative speed most are attacked at.


Figure a 20mm from a 109 closing at 200+mph faster, vs. closing at almost equal speeds.



kinetic impact anyone?



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Re: b26 guns vs lanc?
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2009, 03:59:17 PM »
The difference in speeds would yield a difference in kinetic energy that is too small to notice in terms of the damage caused.  Moreover, cannon armed aircraft inflict most of their damage with chemical, not kinetic, energy.
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Re: b26 guns vs lanc?
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2009, 04:26:11 PM »
I love hunting buffs!!!  But if a set of 26's are higher than me I just let them go....My little 205 loves lancs and B24's!  B26's are like Ki-67's in my book they go fast to keep pressure on in an attack and the 20mm dorsal gun in the Ki will ruin your day.  I almost never get on bombers 6....that asking for it.  I get high 2 or 10 oclock and slash.  What also is fun is killing 2 of the 3 lancs and swooping in on the last one killing he tail gunner.  Then you just sit off it's 6 and pump it full of the 12.7mm on the 205 till it blows up. 


Oh on topic...b-26's are nasty!
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Re: b26 guns vs lanc?
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2009, 04:39:49 PM »
Another good point is on 26s you can put them in a steep auto-climb and when the bogey thinks he is under your gun radius you can light him up when he thinks he's untouchable.
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Re: b26 guns vs lanc?
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2009, 09:10:05 AM »
I have read that German pilots hated having to attack the B26. 



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