Dropping Flaps??

[Yeager]

Based on the age of your BBS accounts you two are both relatively new here.  Tell the community here what your expience is with other WW2 air combat MMOs (excluding IL2 which IS NOT an MMO), and if you have had other in-game IDs in AH in the past.

[Yeager]

...the main reason people don't complain about the Allied models is because you guys did a damn good job of getting them as close to right as possible...

Jeeze man, you ARE new here

[gyrene81]

Jeeze man, you ARE new here

What's your point Yeager??? You think because I haven't wasted 10 years of my life obssessing over a single video game that I don't have a clue?

Oh and just in case you missed something while playing toon pile-it this stopped being a BBS when the html graphical interface was put on it.

[thorsim]

i have been a "MMO" virtual fighter pilot since mac-aw-classic.

now you tell me why any of that is pertinent to this discussion, which by the way is the first i have had here.

[Anaxogoras]

What's your point Yeager??? You think because I haven't wasted 10 years of my life obssessing over a single video game that I don't have a clue?

Oh and just in case you missed something while playing toon pile-it this stopped being a BBS when the html graphical interface was put on it.

His point was that people complain about the allied aircraft very frequently.  Do a search on "P-51" and see for yourself.

[BnZs]

His point was that people complain about the allied aircraft very frequently.  Do a search on "P-51" and see for yourself.

Might as well bundle that one with a search for Ki-61 as well 

[Yeager]

What's your point Yeager??? You think because I haven't wasted 10 years of my life obssessing over a single video game that I don't have a clue?

Oh and just in case you missed something while playing toon pile-it this stopped being a BBS when the html graphical interface was put on it.

This is getting good

[Anaxogoras]

Oh, and since HT is reading, I'm still wondering why the Spit V rolls better than the Spit IX at ~400mph ias.  In your previous sim, Warbirds, they rolled the same.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,256353.0.html

I almost never fly the Spit, so you can't say I'm asking because I want the Spit to be better.

[hitech]

Oh, and since HT is reading, I'm still wondering why the Spit V rolls better than the Spit IX at ~400mph ias.  In your previous sim, Warbirds, they rolled the same.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,256353.0.html

I almost never fly the Spit, so you can't say I'm asking because I want the Spit to be better.

Ask pyro, he chooses the data 

HiTech

[Anaxogoras]

Denied again.

 

[gyrene81]

His point was that people complain about the allied aircraft very frequently.  Do a search on "P-51" and see for yourself.

Ok I looked through 9 pages of P-51 posts (sheesh)...most are technical data...small bugs that were addressed quickly...comparisons to other ac...but very few complaints about the AH handling/performance vs real life.

[thorsim]

yea lets look at the roll rates ...



hope this helps ...

could you move that to another thread though this one is about flap deployment speeds ...

thanks,

t

Oh, and since HT is reading, I'm still wondering why the Spit V rolls better than the Spit IX at ~400mph ias.  In your previous sim, Warbirds, they rolled the same.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,256353.0.html

I almost never fly the Spit, so you can't say I'm asking because I want the Spit to be better.

[mtnman]

Ok I looked through 9 pages of P-51 posts (sheesh)...most are technical data...small bugs that were addressed quickly...comparisons to other ac...but very few complaints about the AH handling/performance vs real life.

Actually, there have been some pretty serious threads about the P51, P38 and F4U handling and turn performance, specifically with use of flaps.  I bet there's over 50 pages on those planes alone, on that topic alone.

Here's an informative look at the F4U-  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,208942.0.html

And the P51- http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,212801.0.html

[Yeager]

i have been a "MMO" virtual fighter pilot since mac-aw-classic.

now you tell me why any of that is pertinent to this discussion, which by the way is the first i have had here.

It was not meant as a slight, just a well intended who are you?  Since you have such a remarkable knack for Luftwaffen aircraft performance knowledge.   Who were you in AW?  Spend any time in WBs?  If so, what was your callsign there?

[gyrene81]

Actually, there have been some pretty serious threads about the P51, P38 and F4U handling and turn performance, specifically with use of flaps.  I bet there's over 50 pages on those planes alone, on that topic alone.

Saw a couple of long discussions with some information in them...but just searching p-51 there were only 9 full pages.

Discussions on the 109 and 190 totalled about 40 pages...since the year 2000.

The issues with LW flight models is nearly as old as these MMO flight sims...with promises of highly realistic fligh models the LW aircraft have consistently fallen short. I blame it on the lack of solid data. Why some retail games and game add-ons have better LW flight modelling is a mystery to me.

Now if we could get Pyro or HiTech to fly do some real life flight testing in a 109 and 190, maybe even simulated dogfights...I wonder what would get changed? 




Yeager...WBs JG-27...Thor can answer the rest.