Author Topic: Sd.Kfz. 234/2 "Puma" (Read 3828 times)

Nilsen · « **on:** March 12, 2009, 04:33:25 PM »

I want

Similar use as the M8 only its german and better gun/armor.

lyric1 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 12, 2009, 04:42:29 PM »

In on this one.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/3620/sdkfz234_2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/3620/234_2.htm&usg=__hd3nYDasYWcpLhs5NGv8kF7eNlw=&h=253&w=625&sz=21&hl=en&start=6&um=1&tbnid=QKpNJHxTFcplFM:&tbnh=55&tbnw=136&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsd.kfz%2B234-2%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADBR_enUS236US236%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1

Nilsen · « **Reply #2 on:** March 12, 2009, 04:43:47 PM »

Thats the one.

The 234/1 would be cool too. Only has a 20mm and mg but from pictures ive seen it can be elevated enough to be effective against aircraft too.

Cthulhu · « **Reply #3 on:** March 12, 2009, 06:17:10 PM »

I like the idea of the Puma. This could become the preferred way to race in and drop a town quickly. Two Puma's and an M3 could probably get the job done in a real hurry.

Xargos · « **Reply #4 on:** March 12, 2009, 06:22:18 PM »

I say NO...just because Nilsen requested it.

Babalonian · « **Reply #5 on:** March 12, 2009, 06:25:41 PM »

Quote from: Nilsen on March 12, 2009, 04:43:47 PM

Thats the one.

The 234/1 would be cool too. Only has a 20mm and mg but from pictures ive seen it can be elevated enough to be effective against aircraft too.

It's not the same 20mm Hispano we typicaly fly around with (which is 20mm x 110mm I think), the 20mm KwK 30 L/55 autocannon used a 20mm x 138mm round that came in AP and HE varieties. That thing in AH would (or should) be brutal against medium-light armor and softer targets like buildings and infantry.

It wasn't made in large quantities, but I would love to see the Sd.Kfz 234 in AH, all of it's varients if possible.

Lusche · « **Reply #6 on:** March 12, 2009, 06:50:10 PM »

Quote from: Babalonian on March 12, 2009, 06:25:41 PM

It's not the same 20mm Hispano we typicaly fly around with (which is 20mm x 110mm I think), the 20mm KwK 30 L/55 autocannon used a 20mm x 138mm round that came in AP and HE varieties. That thing in AH would (or should) be brutal against medium-light armor and softer targets like buildings and infantry.

20x138mm: Same cartridge the Wirbelwind is using.

SmokinLoon · « **Reply #7 on:** March 12, 2009, 06:57:41 PM »

It has thin armor and would be taken out just as easily as the M8. I vote "no" until a legit tank destoyer (M18), self propelled infantry support cannon(Sdkf 251/9), and a British tank is introduced (Cromwell).

Babalonian · « **Reply #8 on:** March 12, 2009, 07:39:43 PM »

Quote from: Lusche on March 12, 2009, 06:50:10 PM

20x138mm: Same cartridge the Wirbelwind is using.

I know it's the same cartridge that the FlaK 30/38 used, but I don't know what type of round our WW in the game is useing (I'm assuming HE). The rounds for a KwK 30 L/55 in a Sd.Kfz 234 should be swapable so that the tanker can choose the right round for the job.

Cthulhu · « **Reply #9 on:** March 13, 2009, 03:58:08 PM »

The 234/1 would be ideal for those times when you need the speed of an armored car (say to cut off LVT's on the way to town). Although "only" a 20mm, AP @ 280 rounds per minute is nothing to laugh at if you're in an LVT or M3.

Quote from: SmokinLoon on March 12, 2009, 06:57:41 PM

It has thin armor and would be taken out just as easily as the M8. I vote "no" until a legit tank destoyer (M18), self propelled infantry support cannon(Sdkf 251/9), and a British tank is introduced (Cromwell).

Well yeah, it's an armored car. No one expects it to go toe-to-toe with a tank and win (although I've seen plenty of guys do it in M8's). It's a scout vehicle, or probably what's best described as a "rapid response" vehicle in AH. The Sd.Kfz 234 (just like the M8) would have it's role in AH.

If HTC did add the 234, it would be really cool if they enabled the ability for the radio operator to drive. Anyone know how fast this thing goes in reverse?

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #10 on:** March 13, 2009, 04:34:01 PM »

I would like to see more armored cars added to the game. The ones I would like to see added are:

Humber Mk IV Armoured Car
Humber LRC Mk IIIA
Humber Scout Car
Panhard 178
T17E1 Armored Car
Autoblinda 41
Sd.Kfz 222

ack-ack

AWwrgwy · « **Reply #11 on:** March 13, 2009, 04:46:20 PM »

Quote from: Cthulhu on March 13, 2009, 03:58:08 PM

If HTC did add the 234, it would be really cool if they enabled the ability for the radio operator to drive. Anyone know how fast this thing goes in reverse?

IIRC it actually has drivers compartments on both ends so, technically, it has no reverse.

wrongway

Nilsen · « **Reply #12 on:** March 13, 2009, 05:00:24 PM »

Quote from: SmokinLoon on March 12, 2009, 06:57:41 PM

It has thin armor and would be taken out just as easily as the M8. I vote "no" until a legit tank destoyer (M18), self propelled infantry support cannon(Sdkf 251/9), and a British tank is introduced (Cromwell).

As far as i have read about it the Puma was the "best" and the best armored of this type of vehicle in ww2, but yeah it would still be an easy kill compared to tanks

The speed and the 50mm would be very handy though. Deacking with the added protection of abit more armor and the longer range of the 50mm would be easyer than with the m8. Against LVTs closing fast on a town and for hunting M3s it would also be a fun little thing to have

opposum · « **Reply #13 on:** March 14, 2009, 09:56:58 AM »

wasn't there a puma with a 75mm cannon on it?

opposum

opposum · « **Reply #14 on:** March 14, 2009, 10:05:12 AM »

yea I just looked it up, the 234/3 and the 234/4 versions had 75mm cannons

I would rather have the 234/4 because it looked like the 3 model was for fortifications not armor

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