Enable some LW kites on the carrier... !!!

[hazed-]

gotta agree here...
im limited to base operations or blue ugly planes for cv ops..i take zero mostly though purely because i hate f4's,
TBM's though, ive become very fond of because of carrier strikes but id much prefer ju88 with torps or 190F with torp.
how about a condor with mines?  

hazed

[SKurj]

I encounter more dhogs than chogs these days I think.  Don't think i've flown a dozen chog ops this tour either    

AKskurj

[maik]

I am with Rip here bring on the 109T. Don't like the idea that everything can take off cv's.

And maybe 1 for the VVS-folks?!.

Maik

[Wilbus]

With the Luftwaffe guys here, since I prefer Luftwaffe. It sucks to have to take off 50 miles away when the rest take off 5 miles away. I sometimes fly teh D hog from the carrier but try to avoid it.
Either add the 109 T or Enable all planes on the carrier, it's up to the pilot to make them take off anyway.
There were B25's on US carriers during the war, they took off from them but landed on a land based base.



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[ispar]

 

Originally posted by Wilbus:

There were B25's on US carriers during the war, they took off from them but landed on a land based base.

Wilbus, there was only one historical example of this, Dolittle's raid on Tokyo in 1942. The pilots underwent special training for short takeoffs over a period of months. Even then some of them barely made it off the deck. "One pilot hung on the edge of a stall until we nearly catalouged his effects"... anyone recognise the quote?

Aside from that, B-25's were far too heavy for carrier ops.

[Jigster]

and none of those B-25 made what you could consider a "good landing" most very far from anything friendly, especially bases  

[-ammo-]

wow, I figured there would be a few more well known names to show up hereprotesting the mere thought of enabling all AC from cv's. I can think of one in particular that is a very active LW lobbiest  


ammo

[Kirin]

Heheh ammo... thought I get some more back-up as well... maybe I have to stirr up some more attention amongst the LW. We thinking of the same name???  

[Hans]

Sure....eneable all planes on the carrier.  I don't mind.

However, along with that get rid of the easy-mode brakes.  You know, brakes that magically ease off when the plane is about to tip over its nose.

There is a reason you are landing so easy, and it isn't something from reality.

Hans.

[-ammo-]

I bet we are Kirin

[Karnak]

This is a repost, but I want to nail both threads with my opinion on this.

Here goes again:

Wildcats, Devastators, Dauntless', Hellcats, Corsairs, TBFs, Helldivers, Judies, Vals, Kates, Jills, Zeros, Seafires, Sea Hurricanes, Skuas, Swordfish, Fulmars, Fireflies and Barracudas should all be enabled from carriers.
The Grace, Reppu, Bf109T and the Stuka might be alright to operate from carriers because they were all equipped to do it, even if they never did.

No other aircraft should be able to fly from carriers. Period.

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[Kirin]

Karnak I may repeat myself aswell:

If the FM lets you take off carrier, HTC should let you do it.

What do you mean by "equipped to do it"? If in RL they had to apply modifications to make a plane carrer operable why is it so easy to take of and land any 109 on the CV? For one point I go wiht Hans, brakes may have to do something with it.

My point:

At the moment we have non-historical arena where every country flies every plane of the set. Each country has fleets. So, if in RL the germans (or any other country) would have had an operable carrier and the planes to use on them (not talking of any fancy model - just a plane that launches and lands on a carrier safely) they would have applied it - right? HTC gives us fleets and planes that technically (from the game engines point of view) can land and take-off from a carrier but implies some artificial rules which lets them out from doing it.

I am pretty sure (?) that german JU88-A4s didnt sink american carriers in the war - here I saw and did it. Carrier battles were not fought in guns range - here it's daily business.

The fleet is an integral part of MA now - nothing to do with any historical aspect. The setting nor the planeset do not reflect any occurance in the war - the fleet is a vital part of strategy - with LWs left out. As I already said - what we can do is furball around the center island.

Either do a pac only arena with pac planes, where only CV enabled planes can launch from CV - or enable them all.

Actually was thinking of another idea as well - let us buy carrier launches for non-carrier planes with perk points!!!  How about that??? As Pyro stated on several occasions the perk system is to balance out things - introduction of the fleet unbalanced the plane selection - letting LW fly off carrier would bring some of the balance back!!


[This message has been edited by Kirin (edited 01-09-2001).]

[SOB]

Even if you're not allowed to take off just any airplane from a carrier (I don't particularly care either way personally), how about having the carrier re-arm and re-fuel any plane that successfully lands on it?


SOB

[Suave1]

 

Originally posted by SKurj:
Max speed of IIc that I have.. 333 mph at 5000 ft
A6M5  343mph at 19,700ft

Akskurj

333 at 5000 ft is what I thought was max speed for seafire IIc also . But the seafire II we have is just as fast as the spitV . I posted it in the bug forum, but some dispute that speed data .

[Lephturn]

SOB,

Doesn't it do that now?  You have to be back on the wires, but if you land a non-CV bird and overshoot it, just let it roll back into the wires and it should get re-armed/fueled no problem.  

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