Why is it that when.......

[noTch]

.....you buy a Me-262 for 175 perks, get one kill, collide with a Spitfire, bail from said Me-262, and end sortie, did it cost me -180 perkies to fly the thing?   Side note, when I went to hangar Me-262's were actually 163 perks    It is almost like I got punished for flying it

I would please like to see a rational explanation of this

[Noir]

the price you pay for the plane is the price at the moment you wreck it.

[noTch]

the price you pay for the plane is the price at the moment you wreck it.

Yes I realize that I will be losing perks, that is not the question.  Why did bailing(which is 1/4 points) with a kill, actually ADD negative points to my perk score    As I have cited in my post, I bought one for 175 & was shot down when they cost 163.

Also while I ae ranting here, it would seem fairer that if you take a high dollar uber ride, that the dividends would be bigger. For instance, maybe instead of a 5 eny make them 31 eny or something like that

[The Fugitive]

perks are dynamic and change all the time, minute to minute. So while you were loosing your 262 5 guys logged in on your team and caused the price to go up, so you got charged more.

The biggest thing about perked rides is, if your worried about what it might cost you, don't bother to fly it. Earn yourself a couple thousand perks then go blow a few 262s up. 

[AWwrgwy]

Yes I realize that I will be losing perks, that is not the question.  Why did bailing(which is 1/4 points) with a kill, actually ADD negative points to my perk score    As I have cited in my post, I bought one for 175 & was shot down when they cost 163.

Also while I ae ranting here, it would seem fairer that if you take a high dollar uber ride, that the dividends would be bigger. For instance, maybe instead of a 5 eny make them 31 eny or something like that

You don't get a break for killing things in an "uber ride".  The price you pay is what you get.  If the price is too high then don't take a perk plane. 

I want a Corvette.  Lower the maintenance cost for me.

It is fair.  You're a cheapskate.   


wrongway

[Murdr]

the price you pay for the plane is the price at the moment you wreck it.

That is incorrect.  The price you pay is the severs price at the moment you spawn. 
Currently, it is only the server that has the official real time perk modifier info.  The info you find in the hanger is computed on your front end based on your roster data when you entered the hanger.  If you logon and do not allow your roster to populate before entering the hanger, you'll see an inaccurate number.  Depending on the arena population, then length of time you linger in the hanger before launching may also give you an inaccurate number.

Why does it work that way?  Probably because the game was not designed with perk modifiers in mind since they were add-ons to the existing game.

HiTech has stated previously that he has looked into complaints and players do get charged for the perk cost at the time of spawning.  Any discrepancies should be due to the price in the hanger not being up to date with the actual price at the instant of spawning.

The perk price is set at take off. If it changes during your sortie it does not effect the perks lost when you die.


HiTech

Zuum: That just simply depends on the refresh in the hangar.

The host keeps track of the real cost at take off time. As described if you just entered arena and go right to the hanger the cost can be drasticly different. If you wait until the roster is populated the cost will always show very close to what the real cost is. In low number times some one person can enter between when you went to the hangar and took off. And that change would account for a small change in perk cost.


HiTech

[AWwrgwy]

Why is it no one ever notices when they lose less perk points than what it said when they took off?

 


wrongway

[Ruler2]

.....you buy a Me-262 for 175 perks, get one kill, collide with a Spitfire, bail from said Me-262, and end sortie, did it cost me -180 perkies to fly the thing?   Side note, when I went to hangar Me-262's were actually 163 perks    It is almost like I got punished for flying it

I would please like to see a rational explanation of this

smae thing happened to me in a Tiger,but much crazier,I payed 38 for it when I left the garage,got 9 KILLS, someone else had just come out of the vh saying tigers were only 34 pts or somethin,then I got bombed and lost 42 points,then returning to tower,saw that price of tiger went down to 32 pts

[Scca]

Why is it no one ever notices when they lose less perk points than what it said when they took off?

 


wrongway

+1  I would like to know that too..

[Anaxogoras]

I always assume that my 262 will end up a big smoking hole in the ground.

[AWwrgwy]

smae thing happened to me in a Tiger,but much crazier,I payed 38 for it when I left the garage,got 9 KILLS, someone else had just come out of the vh saying tigers were only 34 pts or somethin,then I got bombed and lost 42 points,then returning to tower,saw that price of tiger went down to 32 pts

So this would support the statement that the cost of a perk ride is actually the cost of said vehicle the moment that you spawn in it.

Not what it cost when you last looked in the hanger.  Not what it cost when you were killed in it.

Refresh the hanger before you spawn to double check.

Would you really have not taken a Tiger for 42 perks vs. 38?  (Unless, of course, you didn't have 42.)



wrongway

[Scca]

So this would support the statement that the cost of a perk ride is actually the cost of said vehicle the moment that you spawn in it.

Not what it cost when you last looked in the hanger.  Not what it cost when you were killed in it.

Refresh the hanger before you spawn to double check.

Would you really have not taken a Tiger for 42 perks vs. 38?  (Unless, of course, you didn't have 42.)



wrongway

Which makes me wonder.  If your screen says the tiger is 38, and you have 40 and you spawn and lose the perks, but really the tiger was 42, do you A.never get to spawn in the first place, or be owe the HTC perk bank 2 perks. 

[Blooz]

Why did bailing(which is 1/4 points) with a kill, actually ADD negative points to my perk score 

You're also confusing Score points and Perk points.

When you bailed, you got 1/4 of your score points.

To retain your perk points, you need to land your sortie successfully.

[ImADot]

Which makes me wonder.  If your screen says the tiger is 38, and you have 40 and you spawn and lose the perks, but really the tiger was 42, do you A.never get to spawn in the first place, or be owe the HTC perk bank 2 perks. 

You would see a message informing you that you don't have enough perks to take that vehicle and would not be allowed to spawn.

[noTch]

The trend I am talking about is with any other ride, if you get kills, it subtracts perk points from a perk ride. So far in all the examples given to date, it added points to the cost of the ride

I am not complaining about the cost of the ride. I am ready to take the hit for ditching or bailing or getting killed. I am just disgusted
that it penalized me for shooting down another tank. For example, let's say(just for arguments sake) that each kill is worth .5 perk
point. I take out a Tiger for 40 perks. I get 9 kills, then thinking I am close enough to the spawn point, I tower & get a ditch. No big deal about the ditch, half the points, right.  WRONG I get to the hangar to check, and bamm instead of 4.5 pts being subtracted from the 40 to make the adventure worth -35.5, it adds 4.5. Costing me 44.5 perks and makes me pay to get kills in the Tiger.

Again, the complaint is not about loosing perks, it is about having to pay to get kills