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Re: Youth today.
« Reply #45 on: March 27, 2009, 12:36:51 PM »
At junior high my history teacher tought to my class how the B-29s took off from the US Carrier Vessels to bomb Japan...
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Re: Youth today.
« Reply #46 on: March 27, 2009, 12:58:34 PM »
At least the grasshopper was free to make a choice even if it was the wrong one.
I'm thinking his only mistake was in not getting a better agent. A fiddle-playing grasshopper could make a fortune! :O  Probably sound better than 95% of the crap on MTV too.

At junior high my history teacher tought to my class how the B-29s took off from the US Carrier Vessels to bomb Japan...
No surprise there. :rolleyes:
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Re: Youth today.
« Reply #47 on: March 27, 2009, 01:11:20 PM »
haha!  maybe he faked his death to get a quiet life somewhere in the sun?
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Re: Youth today.
« Reply #48 on: March 27, 2009, 01:35:32 PM »
haha!  maybe he faked his death to get a quiet life somewhere in the sun?
I'm sure I saw him hanging with Jimmy Buffett the last time I was in Cabo.
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« Reply #49 on: March 27, 2009, 01:50:29 PM »
The 'youth of today' throughout history knew and cared just as little about history. Nothing has changed in the youth of the last thousand years, all that has changed is history became politics and war became final.

 We now live in a time of mass research, developement and invention on a scale thought impossible one hundred years ago. The future is infinitely more bright for the youth of today than anything they could look back on over the last two thousand years of history. Who can blame them for not caring about mass murder and rascism from the thousand years before 'their time'?

 Most of us here will have been born in the 1900's. Most of the youth of today and tomorrow will have been born into the 2000's. I think some of us may overlook how significant a marker we have witnessed both sides of. This is the third set of one thousand years in the widely accepted western modern human history.
 Those of us who crossed that void will have to be left behind in the past or split in two for the future.

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Re: Youth today.
« Reply #50 on: March 28, 2009, 09:45:22 PM »
I am constantly informed at how clueless my peers are whenever I talk to them about history. 
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Re: Youth today.
« Reply #51 on: March 28, 2009, 10:41:59 PM »
Global Honors: WW1 unit, 2 packets 1 movie (Flyboys) it was over, WW2 unit 2 packets, project and "Shindlers List"... Pathetic waste of time if you ask me, those in my class who dont knwo much of WW 1 or 2, i can safely say, didnt learn much more.
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Re: Youth today.
« Reply #52 on: March 29, 2009, 12:23:08 AM »
history for todays youth is last friday night ... the future is this friday night

Same for my dad 30-40 years ago when he was my age.

Course, the biggest difference is, now, when you get in trouble for thinking like that, you don't get whooped.
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« Reply #53 on: March 29, 2009, 06:43:34 AM »
i remember once my teacher showing us a WWII powerpoint and there was a picture or a P-38 and she said that it was the U.S. primary bomber in europe! i loled!!
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« Reply #54 on: March 29, 2009, 09:27:40 AM »
Course, the biggest difference is, now, when you get in trouble for thinking like that, you don't get whooped.

Part of the problem is that knowledge is grounds for getting "whooped."  I'm sure I would have had my bellybutton kicked if I hadn't played a couple sports.  In our society, if you are an adolescent male who's only strength is a good intellect i.e. you don't play sports, and you know more about the world than your peers, you will be a target.  You will be shunned because of the good quality you have.  That youth culture shuns knowledge and achievement is a big part of the reason why most youth are, frankly, quite dumb.  Female youth are, on average, a little brighter because achievement is not such a stain on their popularity potential.  But regardless of females, youth culture paradoxically identifies knowledge and achievement with a failure to develop as an independent, autonomous individual, which is supposed to be the end goal of adolescent progress.  It's the cave-man mentality that deems the ability to swing a club superior to the man who's potential is to design and build a spear.  Our western civilization was built on the overcoming of this prejudice, which is fashionable among the ignorant and easily-manipulated, but we let it flourish in our most important educational institutions because we believe it is best to let the young find their own way.
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Re: Youth today.
« Reply #55 on: March 29, 2009, 09:48:34 AM »
No. Eggheads get shunned because they're reportedly disconnected from material life. Everyone incl the basest cavemen knows those eggheads're at least one step above the sports jocks, if they show a proper application of all that theory. Business or any kind of shrewd, practical wisdom.  When poop hits the fan, it doesn't matter whether you're an egghead or a jock, only that you're lucid and can get poop done.
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« Reply #56 on: March 29, 2009, 10:13:08 AM »
We'll have to disagree.  In my experience, and in what I've learned about human psychology, resentment toward what is good and useful is the first principle of early social relationships.  In other words, as soon as that jock shows a spark and achieves something outside of physical exertion, he will stir resentment among his peers, too. ;)

What you're saying would make sense if a 16 year old could show off his practicality with his knowledge of calculus or physics, but at that age theoretical knowledge is not yet developed enough to be useful, and it's certainly not going to get you laid.  It takes a higher type to understand that it will be useful in the future and to place value on that delayed reward.
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Re: Youth today.
« Reply #57 on: March 29, 2009, 10:49:26 AM »
Theoretical knowledge does get you laid. The same way you can read abstract math and physics, you can read the dynamics of people.  You can see that one particular chick will be stuck-up if you explicitely aim for her, but totally lose control if you screw with her balance and lay your charms into the girl next to her.
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The jock spark: that's wrong too. No one can deny truth sufficiently transparent.  The jock just hasn't well enough demonstrated he's right.  Of course, on top of that, he's rarely completely right. 
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Re: Youth today.
« Reply #58 on: March 29, 2009, 10:56:05 AM »
Theoretical knowledge does get you laid.

I must have been reading the wrong books! :lol
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Re: Youth today.
« Reply #59 on: March 29, 2009, 11:04:39 AM »
It's a liability to limit yourself to any one book or teacher or medium or learning venue... Everything you learn in one discipline will apply to one or more totally unrelated discipline, somehow. 
And another bit to my argument: any kid will recognize brass tacks truth.  Bridging theoretical and practical is wisdom that any kid will recognize and defer to. Egghead or jock.
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