Author Topic: 10 Plane Choices for AH1.09 (Read 3062 times)

Dowding · « **Reply #30 on:** November 02, 2001, 01:40:00 PM »

How Russian scenario planes*?

Ju-87G and D
Tu-2
T-34*

And if we're feeling generous:

Spit Vb in VVS colours
Me-110
Tiger*

*and tanks

Wutz · « **Reply #31 on:** November 02, 2001, 01:45:00 PM »

Spit and Kittyhawk in russian Gray/white colour would be cool

and perhaps the P39

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #32 on:** November 02, 2001, 01:47:00 PM »

Yeah, I think that scenario planes include Russian and Italian planes.

Can't very well do an Afrika Korps Scenario without more Italian planes.. or defense of Italy. Same with Russian scenarios.

Personally, I would like to see more scenarios of the "never been done before" variety.. or atleast ones I've never seen done in WB when I played it.

That would be Russian front scenarios and Africa front scenarios- those would be a lot of fun. As is, we have a pretty good start for an Africa/Mediterranean scenario. Get some more Italian bombers and stuff like that, and some American armor (Sherman, not really sure what else they used) and some more German armor... P40 as well. Already have the Macchi aircraft and the HurriIID for tank busting.

Just saying of course.
-SW

Hobodog · « **Reply #33 on:** November 02, 2001, 02:03:00 PM »

Ya know we already got a SPIT VB

Nifty · « **Reply #34 on:** November 02, 2001, 02:31:00 PM »

thankee swulfe.

I left out the Eastern Europe and North Africa fronts because I have no to very little knowledge about them. I used the Pac examples because that's what I'm most familiar with due to that's what I like the most. In fact you could just take the BoB set and add early Russian planes to it and get two fronts at once, because didn't Germany use the same planes on both fronts?

I didn't think I was speaking for anyone. I formed my own opinion on how HTC should decide on which planes to model based on seeing people asking for more scenarios. Nothing more.

Also, I didn't really say which they should model first, just if they model plane XYZ, they should model XYZ's historical adversary if it's not already in the planeset for theater scenario considerations.

Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression Wutz. Heck, I'll vote to flesh out North Africa first!

Wutz · « **Reply #35 on:** November 02, 2001, 02:59:00 PM »

Np Nifty. And I agree 110% with you that if they make the 109E they should make the Spit I. The main focuse now is perhaps, as nifty have pointed out. Too focuse on planes that can be used. Perhaps not much use with spit I and 109E whitout the He-111, Do-17 etc. Since a 109E and Spit1 would see little use inn the main arena(I think?) And the russian front can be recreated with the current equipment (Us leand lease Tanks for russia ,and some B26) but It would be cool to see a Russian Bomber, and perhaps the Mig-3 and Lagg-3. (the 109G2 is after all a finnish version in AH with the Blue svarstika, taken from a swedish baron/duke/count. Would like some winter camo on some planes though, and a winter map

And with current equipment avlb a 1944 scenario in russia seems most likely (too take adv of the La5 and La7)

Sundog · « **Reply #36 on:** November 02, 2001, 04:55:00 PM »

FYI
Based on my experience with AH since the beta, the HTC team likes to introduce 'Mods' of existing aircraft along with a few new aircraft with each build. This is due to limited resources and timely updates for Aces High. That is why I list half the aircraft as mods of what we have and the other half as new.

As for already having a Spit Mk.Vb...I know. But I really like the clipped wing version and it should prove to be a relatively easy mod to add with minor adjustments to the flight model

.

aknimitz · « **Reply #37 on:** November 02, 2001, 05:23:00 PM »

I want the P39!

Steven · « **Reply #38 on:** November 02, 2001, 07:46:00 PM »

[Sundog] <<<Based on my experience with AH since the beta, the HTC team likes to introduce 'Mods' of existing aircraft along with a few new aircraft with each build. This is due to limited resources and timely updates for Aces High.>>>

I paused after I read that and started to think (and yeah, it hurt a bit), but Aces High has grown by leaps and bounds by what I've heard and maybe it's time the design team grows too.

It is obvious to me too that many players are asking for more scenarios. This statement does not speak for anyone but my own observations and is based on review of the forum posts and is not presented with quantifiable numbers such as 95%, 50% or even "three players." But there are many who do hope to see the scenarios grow and that means increasing the plane set. TOD will soon introduce a weekend event due to a teensy bit of demand...and the TODs are scenario based. Would sure be good to see some scenarios centered around aircraft that would not be a viable option in the MA.

Soviet · « **Reply #39 on:** November 03, 2001, 07:56:00 PM »

Aren't the SpitXIV and the Ki-84 uber planes that can outclimb, outrun, and outturn pretty much everything? correct me if i'm wrong on the Ki-84 but I hope the SpitXIV trades it's turning ability for speed (i don't know much about spits either) otherwise it would be bad for the main arena.

I personally would like to see earlier war planes like

Bf-109E4 (for BoB)
Bf-109E7
Bf-109K4 (only later war plane i want)
Fw-190F8 (yes it's in the planeset but give us the full armament!!!!)
Ju-87D
Ju-87G (same as Ju-87 except for the addition of two 37MM guns and no wing bombs (i believe)
How about a Sea 109 since the germans were making them for their carrier

For VVS Tu-2 and Tu-3bis (a fighter varient of the Tu-2, a lot better than the Me-110 with a tail gun)
and a I-16 can complete a full 360 turn in 6 seconds!!! but it's slow so don't think it's uber

~Soviet

ra · « **Reply #40 on:** November 03, 2001, 08:18:00 PM »

I've never seen an A-20 modeled. The A-20 would be nice because:

1) it's sorta early war
2) it would be effective but not uber
3) it was used in large numbers all over the world.
4) there were many interesting versions.

ra

Karnak · « **Reply #41 on:** November 03, 2001, 09:05:00 PM »

Soviet,

The SpitXIV turns better than any aircraft in can't outrun.

Top speed on the deck is 357mph or 363mph, depending on your source. Top speed is 448mph at 27,000ft. Initial climb rate is generally reported at 4,580ft, but RAF tests put it at over 5,000ft.

The Spitfire MkXIV will be a perk plane.

The Ki84 has a top speed of 392mph when using Japanese fuel, and 423 when using US or UK fuel. The Ki84 will probably do about 350 on the deck.

J_A_B · « **Reply #42 on:** November 03, 2001, 09:27:00 PM »

The Spit 14 will be a perk, and probably an expensive perk, unless modeled as one of the very first Spit 14's--and modeling it as such wouldn't do it justice.

With that in mind, I think I'd rather see something like a Spit 9 LF or HF as a 1944-era spit, so it could be free, or at the very least a cheap perk.

The KI-84, on the other hand, is not perk material. It essentially would be a slightly faster, but less gunned and less durable N1K2. Turning ability would be about equal to the likes of the Spit 9 and F6F (probably a hair better than the F6). Compared to the Spit 9, it'd be faster (at low altitude) and turn about as well with the same gun set, but it'd not climb as well and bleed E much faster (plus the Japanese cannons aren't quite as good as Hispanos).

KI-84 = worthy non-perk fighter that can hold its own against the AH planeset. Add it!!!

J_A_B

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Gorf · « **Reply #44 on:** November 04, 2001, 08:29:00 AM »

My CHoice is....(drum role)

P47 M

ME410... Pyro brought it up about a year ago. I WANT IT!!

A Jap and Russian bomber

P47 M and or N

P40N and or B

P39Q or D

P63 with Russian Markings

and of course

P61..P61... P61.. P61..P61..(hint..hint)

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