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Offline stephen

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Re: m4a3 sherman and some others
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2009, 05:42:14 AM »
Hey BIGPLAy, it sound like a whole LOT of fun, lol.

My comparison after the m4 was introduced was the T-3475...., its gun is is very underpowerd, and it is almost useless accept that most field ack bounces off almost every part of it but the tracks.
I didnt believe it was fair (and I still dont) that the sherman be introduced in its uber configuration, when the T34 was not..

I still believe the thing isnt perked enough, and see the panther being introduced as yet another awsome german ride that would be highly perked, and yet be meat on the table to the likes of the sherman...
I say bring it up to date with more gv's, but adjust the perk cost accordingly....

Im reminded that the reason the f4uc is perked is to keep people from flying only that version of the plane, perhaps the Shermans short barreld little brother would have the same effect on gv'ing if it was introduced...?
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Re: m4a3 sherman and some others
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2009, 05:13:45 PM »
I agree with Big Play, the M4 sherman will be to vulnerable to some of the biger tanks, sure it is the equivelant of the panzer IV aka panther, but I would rather have that than the sherman as they still fared better due to a more powerfull engine.
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Re: m4a3 sherman and some others
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2009, 05:21:14 PM »
I agree with Big Play, the M4 sherman will be to vulnerable to some of the biger tanks, sure it is the equivelant of the panzer IV aka panther, but I would rather have that than the sherman as they still fared better due to a more powerfull engine.
The Panzer IV was also known as the Panzer IV. The Panther was the Panzer V.




Anyway... I think that more early war tanks would add to Scenarios and FSO's, which are continually adding more and more ground action, but constantly have to make sacrifices in substitution due to our anemic EW vehicle set.

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Re: m4a3 sherman and some others
« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2009, 06:04:15 PM »
Unless I am forgeting something, they never made a panzer seven, which would be the tiger II according to you, only a panzer VI (tigerII) and that would make the panzer V the tiger.
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Re: m4a3 sherman and some others
« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2009, 06:14:07 PM »
Indeed there was no Panzer VII (Loewe) built.
The Panzer VI Ausf. E was known as the Tiger I and the Panzer VI Ausf. B was known as the Tiger II according to what I've read. But the Panzer V was certainly the Panther, and earlier versions of the Panzer had no cat name.
We have the Panzer IV Ausf. H in game btw :)

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Re: m4a3 sherman and some others
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2009, 06:15:26 PM »
Ok, thanks Motherland, I guse I was mistaken. thanks :salute
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Re: m4a3 sherman and some others
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2009, 02:07:53 PM »
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Dirt I agree some of those tanks should be added, you might also want to include the production #.
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Re: m4a3 sherman and some others
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2009, 04:29:53 PM »
If you want a western allies tank with some interesting specs, the Comet would be interesting.
40 mph with a gun similar to the Firefly. Armor somewhat similar too.
40 mph Firefly....bad  :devil
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Re: m4a3 sherman and some others
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2009, 08:11:26 AM »
Interesting spec. How does it translate to its effectiveness?  Does it fly with that speed or what? :)

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Re: m4a3 sherman and some others
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2009, 06:20:57 AM »
Ahh, I see my blunder. The Cromwell had 40 mph, but the Comet was geared down to 32 in order to be reliable on tracks. Still 17 hp for the tonne on a 33 ton tank. It's a mean one, heavier than a T-34 (26.5 tons), and equally fast.
The Cromwell however, with 40 mph would also be interesting. There you have something with perhaps the firepower of a T-34, but 40 mph. Hmmm. I always die in the first shot anyway  :devil
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Re: m4a3 sherman and some others
« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2009, 05:44:25 PM »
I agree with charge, interesting is the best way to describe it's specs. One thing I would ask is how effective is that gun against some of the larger tanks such as the new soviet tank? another thing I would ask is  that it says 102mm armor, does that mean it is evenly distributed or that that is the measurment in the front?  If everything else is avarage then the only advantage I could see would be it's speed.
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Re: m4a3 sherman and some others
« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2009, 08:03:04 PM »
you  guys are wrong there was a tank that could stand up to the king tiger

is-2 the big fat tank 122mm gun 160mm armour
its a good tank

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Re: m4a3 sherman and some others
« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2009, 08:40:44 AM »
Big baddie, and a potential tiger killer as well as an effective town destroyer. WOuld see useforsure.
I'd go for a 40 mph tank with a decent gun though. Or a 32mph tank with almost the same firepower as the Firefly....
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Re: m4a3 sherman and some others
« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2009, 05:36:15 PM »
If you want a western allies tank with some interesting specs, the Comet would be interesting.
40 mph with a gun similar to the Firefly. Armor somewhat similar too.
40 mph Firefly....bad  :devil


It came very late and really didn't see much action, so it wouldn'tmeet the criteria of HT

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Re: m4a3 sherman and some others
« Reply #29 on: May 02, 2009, 07:05:38 PM »
The comet was in action in Germany in 1945 and did see combat.
The Cromwell (the 40 mph one) did see more combat. It's flaw (throwing of the tracks at high speed, which is why the later comet was restricted to 32 mph)) would not be modelled in AH....
Both valid.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)