38j vs mk XVI

[hlbly]

How do you beat a spit 16 in a 38j . co alt co e ?

[Bruv119]

you don't.


(if certain people are flying the 16) 

[hlbly]

lol gotta be a way.

[The Fugitive]

They are close in a lot of ways. The 38 will zoom better in the vert, but the spit climbs well, so that is a very small window to play in.

At first the 38 will out dive the spit, but the spit catch up because it can out run the 38 once you run out of dive room.

About the only thing the 38 does better is a spiraling climb into the torque of the spit. If you get someone dumb enough to follow you up in a spiraling rope like that, then hes dumb enough to kill in most way anyway 

[hlbly]

so a spiral climb to the left ?

[Mar]

so a spiral climb to the left ?

The spixteen's torque is to the left, you need to go right.

[Cajunn]

And that's even a very hairy thing with a 16 on your tail, I have tried just about every plane in the set in practice missions, and the only planes I could get the out right advantage on a 16 was the very best of the turn rides in a co E co alt situation.

[Ack-Ack]

Never fight any Spitfire (except the Mk XIV) at medium speeds, they will chew up a P-38 quite easily in that speed range.  Keep the fight fast and if you can't, take the fight really slow at near stall speed ranges.  Those clipped wings on the Mk XVI come at a price which is their low speed handling at near stall speeds.  Cloverleaf also works well at low/stall speeds against any of the Spitfires.



ack-ack

[Dawger]

What's a cloverleaf? Film if possible. but a description will do.

[CAP1]

Never fight any Spitfire (except the Mk XIV) at medium speeds, they will chew up a P-38 quite easily in that speed range.  Keep the fight fast and if you can't, take the fight really slow at near stall speed ranges.  Those clipped wings on the Mk XVI come at a price which is their low speed handling at near stall speeds.  Cloverleaf also works well at low/stall speeds against any of the Spitfires.



ack-ack

i actually noticed that i had much much better low speed performance in the spit5 and 9, as opposed to the 16......that being said, i still have one helluva time with any of the spits vs me in a 38..unless i have an alt advantage to begin with.

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[Fianna]

Hope that the mkXVI is flown by someone who doesn't know what they're doing.... that's really your only chance.

[Cajunn]

i actually noticed that i had much much better low speed performance in the spit5 and 9, as opposed to the 16......that being said, i still have one helluva time with any of the spits vs me in a 38..unless i have an alt advantage to begin with.

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And even with a E advantage A good spit stick will just use the E against you with good break turns and if your patients runs out you can get in a lot of trouble fast.

And that Spit9 isn't fast but it is a sweet ride, I have used that thing in BnZ and TnB rolls and it can be effective in both.

[Kazaa]

you don't.


(if certain people are flying the 16) 

+1

[CAP1]

And even with a E advantage A good spit stick will just use the E against you with good break turns and if your patients runs out you can get in a lot of trouble fast.

And that Spit9 isn't fast but it is a sweet ride, I have used that thing in BnZ and TnB rolls and it can be effective in both.

next to the zeek, i like the spit9 in furballs. just wish it had more ammo.

xbrit handed my arse to me a couple of times. every time, i had serious alt and speed advantages. he is fraking scary good in that spit. 

[Guppy35]

Unless the 16 driver is a really good one, I seem to do ok against them really slow.  The clipped wing 16 tends to stall out before the 38G does.

Of course the G is a lighter bird then the J so that helps too