The global warming as for today :D

[Angus]

[Denholm]

I suppose they consider their current diet to be bland?

[Shuffler]

Unfortunately scientist say the earth is cooling now. Only the medicine show types that make money off fear are still pushing global warming.

[Angus]

Where on earth did you see that? Anyway, the SUN is being odd and not following it's pattern. The sun's output is now very low.

[Nilsen]

Unfortunately scientist say the earth is cooling now. Only the medicine show types that make money off fear are still pushing global warming.

Link please (not FOX) 

[Angus]

Nilsen, there is a big GW conference going on now in Tromsö, right?
The latest news I have is that the SL rising is 3 times more than before anticipated. AFAIK some part of the conference is comparing predictions (from before) with today's data.
Anyway, melting leading to SL rising is a very good gauge on what is happening, and very much more true than air temp figures and computer models. Maybe just me, but if I drop my egg on the floor and it breaks and somebody tries to convince me that it's not possible, then.....

[Ghosth]

Takes time after the warmup for the sea to cool back down so that its no longer melting ice at the faster rate.

In effect the ocean is a big heat sink, storing and moderating temps. Takes time to heat it up, and it takes time to cool it back off. While its cooling off it will continue to melt ice, and raise levels.

The fact is we have just begun to explore exactly how the larger picture looks and works.
No one person has all the answers. And anyone who says they do should be ignored for 10 years till they are proven right or wrong.

[swoose]

What Ghosth said. Where facts are few..experts are many.
<S> Swoose

[Nilsen]

Common sense dictates that if you change something that is in balance by such gigantic proportions as we have over the last 100 something years something is gonna change.

It happenes with everything else, why not nature? Yes nature is robust and can adapt to a certain degree, but there is a limit. It doesnt take very many degrees in either direction either to have a very noticeble effect on the planet and the creatures and plants that live here.

Common sense people.

[soda72]

Where on earth did you see that? Anyway, the SUN is being odd and not following it's pattern. The sun's output is now very low.

So does this mean laz was right?

 

IT'S THE SUN STUPID

 

[Angus]

10 m of seawater over the globe contains about the mass of the entire atmosphere. A nice big sink, that's for good.
However, the ocean temp cannot explain the glacial melting that occures. Glacial melting basically goes with the air temp, while both affect the sea ice. But melting sea ice does not raise SL.
So, glacial melting is also a very good indicator on temperature development in our hemosphere. Either way, the result is the same,  - warming.
Now this is happening at a time when the sun has a cold. So higher up in the atmosphere, we do have a cooling. AFAIK.
You may say, "well, it's colder than last year or before", that may be true, since many a record was broken in 2007. New records were not to be made, so the graph goes down, but it's still in it's place, don't let the perspective confuse you.

[Angus]

So does this mean laz was right?

 


 

If it was JUST the sun (as Lazs suggested), we'd have a nice ice-age by now. We'd be in an ice-age on a cold day actually.

[Megalodon]

"You know, there are a lot of people many of them in your industry may who you probably know who say that global warming is not a big problem," Pelley said.

"It's my judgment it is a problem," Rogers said. "We need to go to work on it now. And it's critical that we start to act in this country."

Like a reformed tobacco executive, Rogers says we can't survive the emissions his industry creates.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/23/60minutes/main4964301.shtml

Not to mention all of the worlds coal power plants that do nothing to clean there emissions

[Sol75]

emissions.. does this mean I need to fliter my farts when I eat mexican food?

[Eagler]

without being political - I'll just say "CAP & TRADE" ... the end