bf-109 k-4 Jg27 blue 7

[Xasthur]

Bugger.... I was going to do this one when I got the time. 


Kazan, I've spent a fair bit of time looking this bird up as I'm building a model of it (and wanted to skin it here). Seeing as you've beaten me to it... 

Beware of some things you have missed:

- First, your colours are very strange. My colours in this combination are a little bit dark in-game (as posted by Hammer).... but they're close.
- The fuselage colour should be duck-egg, not RLM76 (Light blue). The underside of the wings, however, should be RLM 76. The wings and fuselage were mis-matched.
- There should be a section of over-painting in grey between the left fuselage balkenkruez and the RVD band
- Note the yellow cowling band
- Note the colour of the rudder
- The 'wave' of your fuselage colour is not the correct shape.

See this photo:


and this profile:


I think this profile is the best out of all of the ones I've seen. The only thing I disagree with is the 'wavey' pattern of the left-upper wing camoflague. Otherwise, I think it is a very good representation and is definitely not a bad thing to work from.

Good luck, mate.

[Kazan_HB]

Thank you Xasthur! It is best profile 
I use this colors chart ( CMYK)
http://www.chandelle-jah.com/camocolors.html

update:

[Krusty]

Kazan, I looked at your color website, and something's wrong. I look at the RLM 81 and RLM 82 listed in the chart and they are VERY dark. Too dark if you ask me. Then somehow on the finished skin screenshot they're almost blown out with radiant light.

Either something's off in your video monitor setup or you have something else wrong with your color profile on that PC.

I used to use about 3-4 different websites and take a sampling of different colors and make the best decision on that, but most of the time I kept using the sample supplied by:

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/colorcharts.asp
(german colors here: http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/stuff_eng_colorcharts_germany.htm )

So I make it my first stop for all things color related. The color samples all come directly from the federal standards used on paints still today. Here's a sample of RLM80 and RLM81 next to each other:

http://www.colorserver.net/showcolor.asp?fs=30045+34096

[Xasthur]

Das ist sehr gut, Kazan.

3 things:

- Supercharger intake. I don't think it looks like it's a different colour... but that's just my opinion. It looks to me as though it is the same colour as the surrounding cowling.
- Upper horrizontal stabliser colours. It's a bit odd to see it all one colour.
- The blending between your fuselage colour and upper surface colours is very sharp. Having it so sharp makes the colours jump out a bit.

Other than that, it's looking very good.

Perhaps take a look at your canopy frames... It looks like the forward section is grey and the rear is brown. It's a bit hard to tell there, so it's just a judgement call on that one.

[Kazan_HB]

Thank you Archaius.
I need one day to finish ( this is WIP).
Any opinion about colors? All are wrong?
Look like your profile...
@Krusty
I have few colors chart.
Discussion about " which color used Luftwaffe?" had long tradition.
And thanks for your help. 
edit: i have 17" TFT monitor BENQ
I sorry too my bad English...

[hammer]

These are only personal opinions - Green looks a little bright to me, but I could live with it. The brown looks too light and too pink.

Regards,

Hammer

[1pLUs44]

I think I found what may have been bothering people, I put the image on Gimp, and fooled around with the "smudge" tool. If you look at the profile, then the first picture Kazan has, it shows little black lines on the plane's skin where the waves start on the fuselage.


Here's Kazans:


Here's the one I edited: You think that may have been what was bugging you? (only thing that really even bugged me)

[Krusty]

I don't think that's the issue with me.

[1pLUs44]

I don't think that's the issue with me.

That was the only thing that really bugged me, and I'm sure that's nothing to fix for any skinner.

[AWwrgwy]

It may just be the screen shot but I see alot of "noise" in the colors.  And, as Krusty said, they seem a bit bright, almost neon-ish.

Also, as Xasthur mentioned, it looks like you missed painting the supercharger intake on the left side of the engine in front of the wing.


wrongway

[Xasthur]

It might be the texture file he's using.

Would you mind posting your texture file values for us, Kazan?

As someone said before, the colours are a bit NrRaven-ish...

I made the mistake of replacing one of his skins and not including a new texture file..... and now my skin looks crazy too.

I'll have to email HTC and replace it.

[Kazan_HB]

ok last update. I hope is ok now...




THX all for help!

[lyric1]

Looks good only issue I see is the triangle stencil is not matched up to the photo on the blue 7.

[Fencer51]

Nor is the shadowy line infront of the port "7" shown as in the pic and profile.  Also looks like the nose spiral is the wrong size based upon the profile, but not sure I see one on the pictures.

[Xasthur]

I'm sorry to be a pain.... but I think your colours are too dark now.

I think they need to be closer to the colours you had just before this one.

A bit darker than those but not as dark as your latest.

Also, as stated by Lyric and Fencer, check your detail in the port 7 area.

That overpainted number is missing and the fuel type stencil should overlap the 7