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Offline StokesAk

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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #90 on: May 05, 2009, 06:12:11 PM »
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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #91 on: May 05, 2009, 08:25:44 PM »
Never heard of most of them. Why do you keep calling blue the sewer? That is just a retarded statement
I see some of the best players in the game in blue and they seem to be having fun.
The really silly statement you make is about not being able to get into Orange 95% of the time, only tells me
you either don't know how to or do not have the patients to wait a few minutes to get in. There has never been
a time that i have not been able to get in to any arena I wanted to if I just waited a few minutes. The Caps change all the time.







Don't speak for the entire community.  Never professed to.  YOU said that. 

Dude---get out of the cave and network once in a while.  You might actually learn something about people, their families, how they play the game and their concerns about game issues.




Here is the copy & paste for THIS MONTH'S TOUR (The one you professed to quote):

77th FS "Gamblers"
Selected Tour: Late War Tour 112
Squad CO: ROX     Number of Members: 17
   
  Ranks
Game ID Overall Fighter Bomber Attack Veh/Boat
19kilo 102 731 290 121 318
Caddie N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
Carbine 3261 3283 2240 1942 1671
CAV3 323 1742 56 717 227
DrPizza N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A 
HiVolt 2457 2811 2240 557 2056
jflorida 2691 2782 1573 1260 2424
Mar 3165 2283 2240 1942 2424
Matt77th 386 391 1382 375 872
Oracle 1133 1824 605 1942 852
phoenix 887 439 1573 1942 704
Rav3N 241 1280 219 226 638
ROX 904 1751 988 1464 502
SpazMan N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A 
Stage2 1162 2913 773 728 882
starguy 734 981 1138 825 1276
SWAPLT 2441 3283 1573 1395 1387



If you don't like me--that sounds like you have a personal problem.  Take it up with your shrink.

It might be nice if you took the time to get your facts straght though...oh wait...I forgot....it's DAN.




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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #92 on: May 05, 2009, 10:01:40 PM »
Here is the copy & paste for THIS MONTH'S TOUR (The one you professed to quote):

5 days into a new tour and only 3 people havent played yet...nice  :noid
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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #93 on: May 05, 2009, 11:03:03 PM »




Don't speak for the entire community.  Never professed to.  YOU said that.  

Dude---get out of the cave and network once in a while.  You might actually learn something about people, their families, how they play the game and their concerns about game issues.




Here is the copy & paste for THIS MONTH'S TOUR (The one you professed to quote):

77th FS "Gamblers"
Selected Tour: Late War Tour 112
Squad CO: ROX     Number of Members: 17
  
  Ranks
Game ID Overall Fighter Bomber Attack Veh/Boat
19kilo 102 731 290 121 318
Caddie N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
Carbine 3261 3283 2240 1942 1671
CAV3 323 1742 56 717 227
DrPizza N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A  
HiVolt 2457 2811 2240 557 2056
jflorida 2691 2782 1573 1260 2424
Mar 3165 2283 2240 1942 2424
Matt77th 386 391 1382 375 872
Oracle 1133 1824 605 1942 852
phoenix 887 439 1573 1942 704
Rav3N 241 1280 219 226 638
ROX 904 1751 988 1464 502
SpazMan N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A  
Stage2 1162 2913 773 728 882
starguy 734 981 1138 825 1276
SWAPLT 2441 3283 1573 1395 1387



If you don't like me--that sounds like you have a personal problem.  Take it up with your shrink.

It might be nice if you took the time to get your facts straght though...oh wait...I forgot....it's DAN.




ROX


Rox.... he has more experience and knowledge of this type of game in the dirt under his pinky fingernail then you may have in your whole body. You're slamming one of the vets of vets. He's trying to be the voice of reason to you, from experience.

Allow your self to be enlightened sometimes, allow yourself to be wrong. I will bet both my nuts that 3 people from one squad leaving, for who actually knows what (we're just taking your word for it), is alarm enough to say we lost many vets to that problem. Most the people in this thread are long time old school vets.

Most vets have been through that issue and much more, if they are still vets their not likely leaving for this issue.

To be honest, I never have problem getting into an arena. All you have to do is wait till someone exits. That happens about every 3 minutes. If people are leaving because of this they prolly had no intention of staying in the first place.

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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #94 on: May 06, 2009, 06:37:34 AM »

The real facts are that, more people were leaving because of over crowding in 1 arena then leave because of the arena split.

The fact is this is not a small number of customers we now have because we made the split.

The split is not going to go away, the only thing that can changed based on new ideas is how the arena split is performed.

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My Idea as I mentioned a few pages ago.
Leave one arena titanic Tuesday style.
And another arena open for those who do not like the over crowding.

Let the players decide where they want to be.

Perhaps use only large maps in the Titanic arena and only the small maps in the smaller arena.
That way you would be assured there would be at least some presence in the smaller arenas by those who do not like the larger maps as well as those who do not like the large crowds.

Again you would be allowing the players decide where they want to be and removing any whines for excuses on not liking the large crowds or the large/small maps.
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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #95 on: May 06, 2009, 06:41:37 AM »
Drediock, I like your idea.
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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #96 on: May 06, 2009, 06:57:40 AM »
Drediock, I like your idea.
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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #97 on: May 06, 2009, 07:20:50 AM »
The issue isn't about "I want to fly with my friends".  The issue is "I want to fly with the hord".

If it was actually a problem of flying with friends then the logical solution would be to go to the less populated arena.  One would infer that a lower populated arena with the larger cap would be easier for a larger group to get into all at once.

But noooooo.  The actual issue is "I want to be where everyone else is."  It has nothing to do with friends or squads flying together.  It's all about "if everyone else is there, it must be better...."

How can we prove this?  Reset Orange at 7am.  Leave Blue alone.  People logging on see Orange at 55/400 and Blue at 150/400 and start filling up Blue because that's where everyone is.  I witnessed this one morning after a late night reset of Orange one Monday morning.  Same map in Blue that had "sucked" all week was suddenly the fuller arena because that's where everyone was.

How could having one arena "Titanic" all the time help?  Again, everyone would go there because that's where everyone was.  The other arena would be empty.

IIRC the way the split was supposed to work was for squads who wanted to fly together to choose "their" particular arena and stick to it.  Squad A would always fly Blue.  That way the entire squad would always know where to meet.  Squad B would choose to always fly Orange, etc.  Unfortunately, with two arenas that really have no distinguishing features other than numbers, there is no incentive to choose one arena over the other.

Air Warrior had squads that chose to fly in specific arenas because there were specific plane sets and maps in the different arenas, Pacific in one, ETO in another.  Separate and distinguishable. 

The real problem with the "overcrowding" situation is easily solvable if people actually took the initiative to do so other than whine about it.  Go to the other arena.

Of course, the problem I see with the "go to the other arena" idea is it would suddenly have more people in it and everyone else would want to be there too.




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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #98 on: May 06, 2009, 07:48:24 AM »
How is Blue a sewer?  Just because it's the "2nd" arena?  Gameplay in Blue tends to be better because of the <gasp> smaller number of players it generally has in primetime.  Sewer?

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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #99 on: May 06, 2009, 08:02:38 AM »
My Idea as I mentioned a few pages ago.
Leave one arena titanic Tuesday style.
And another arena open for those who do not like the over crowding.

Let the players decide where they want to be.

Perhaps use only large maps in the Titanic arena and only the small maps in the smaller arena.
That way you would be assured there would be at least some presence in the smaller arenas by those who do not like the larger maps as well as those who do not like the large crowds.

Again you would be allowing the players decide where they want to be and removing any whines for excuses on not liking the large crowds or the large/small maps.


While this sounds like a great idea, I have to agree with wrongway, it just won't work.

Dred, I don't remember if you were here, or on a break when the arenas were first split, but, Like now, when you logged in the default setup had you highlighting the EW arena. For the first week its were everyone was flying! Some didn't notice that you had to select another arena, and the rest just looked at where the numbers were.

If they set up the arenas like you propose everyone would just go into the TT arena, not because thats what they like, but because thats where the numbers are. All that would do would be to bring back the super hordes again along with all the poor game play that was causing people to cancel their subscriptions, which is why HTC split the arenas in the first place.

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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #100 on: May 06, 2009, 10:28:31 AM »
Leave the cap but give squadies of players logged into over caped arenas ability to log in anyways.

Problem with the cap is that it is splitting people that are here to play together.

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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #101 on: May 06, 2009, 10:32:07 AM »
Leave the cap but give squadies of players logged into over caped arenas ability to log in anyways.

Wouldn't that essentially remove the caps? Most players are member of a squad, and many players are members of huge squads.
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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #102 on: May 06, 2009, 10:59:43 AM »
Arena caps are fine the way they are.

I have NEVER had to wait more than 5 or so minutes to get into a specific arena EVER!!

People these days just don't seem to have any patience.

They want what they want and they want it now!!

Its pathetic.

I can imagine HT reading these BBs everyday and just shaking his head in disbelief.
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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #103 on: May 06, 2009, 11:13:07 AM »
I'm alright Jack

you may only have to wait 5mins, others have to try for significantly longer. its a complex function of rising/falling/stable overall numbers and the ratio of players in orange/blue.
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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #104 on: May 06, 2009, 12:32:30 PM »
Leave the cap but give squadies of players logged into over caped arenas ability to log in anyways.

Problem with the cap is that it is splitting people that are here to play together.

Make your squad's arena of choice the smaller arena.

But, like I said before, if one or two squads do the logical thing, everyone will want to go where they are because, suddenly, the less populated arena isn't the less populated arena any more.


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