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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #270 on: June 11, 2009, 02:31:37 PM »
but this thread is aiiiiiiiiiighhhhhhhhhhhhttttt tt. :rock

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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #271 on: June 11, 2009, 03:16:59 PM »
How is saying have two arenas and no (max 200) caps on arenas that can handle 1000 is equal to the desire of having one arena.
There seems to be a logical step in thinking that goes beyond my comprehension.
I think there was a policy error that resulted in a lot of coding into the arena caps system and now that it's failing from some users perspective in the task of enhancing their gaming experience there is a reluctance to fix what is broken.
More thought and analysis of user behavior, the reasons behind their choice of arenas should be conducted after which a more viable solution to this problem would surface.

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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #272 on: June 11, 2009, 03:50:26 PM »
How is saying have two arenas and no (max 200) caps on arenas that can handle 1000 is equal to the desire of having one arena.
There seems to be a logical step in thinking that goes beyond my comprehension.
I think there was a policy error that resulted in a lot of coding into the arena caps system and now that it's failing from some users perspective in the task of enhancing their gaming experience there is a reluctance to fix what is broken.
More thought and analysis of user behavior, the reasons behind their choice of arenas should be conducted after which a more viable solution to this problem would surface.

I'm so smart, I sometimes have trouble understanding where my super fast and logical thinking abilities came from.  :rolleyes:  ;)

Santaana.

1. Why have arena limits.
   Simply put there is an optimal number of people in an arena that works best for the most people to have fun in many aspects. This number is more than 1 and less than 500.
   As sine quick reasons why there is a top end cap, here are just a few.
   1. Communication on country/voice and 200. With more people it can almost become unreadable.
   2. The more people the less noticed each person is, and hence they are more anonymous.
   3. More people create more of a herding / fly where they are not mentality. This is because each person feels they have less of an impact on the game, hence they need to be part of a bigger flying group to have any impact.


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More thought and analysis of user behavior, the reasons behind their choice of arenas should be conducted after which a more viable solution to this problem would surface.

No need for more analysis, it is called heard behavior, and is just the nature of the human animal.

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How is saying have two arenas and no (max 200) caps on arenas that can handle 1000 is equal to the desire of having one arena.

Simple fact everyone would go to the one arena.

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saantana: Also be aware that many people will try disguise there desire for 1 arena with a suggestion that has the net effect of 1 arena.

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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #273 on: June 11, 2009, 03:54:52 PM »
^^^^^^The man has spoken^^^^^^

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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #274 on: June 11, 2009, 04:15:00 PM »
saantana,

The 1000 was what Hitech mentioned as his server/program is capable(?) of handling without software modification. I did not say one arena with 1000 cap. I did say if there were to be 2 arena's then allow one to run without cap and the other with a smaller cap. Right now we have TT but no secondary arena on that day.

Why do I get the feeling the total number of folks that could get up in all the different arenas could perhaps reach the max limit of 1000 and thus this discussion has no merit other than letting folks post something for enjoyable reading?

My analogy of the baseball club providing for its fan brings no value to the discussion. While the clubs may be limited to their location, we don't have that limitation. Instead we endure other limitations. It's prolly cause we're morons with a heard mentality.
I mean we all herd it so lets just move along and get up flying!
I'd sae id c u on 200 but ill prolly be off in da ta.

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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #275 on: June 11, 2009, 04:17:58 PM »
Do you guys know that a lot of the most talked about topics in general are about the arena caps.



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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #276 on: June 11, 2009, 04:20:50 PM »
Do you guys know that a lot of the most talked about topics in general are about the arena caps.

Don't have access to those stats so difficult to comment on it.

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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #277 on: June 11, 2009, 04:29:36 PM »
Understood. Still leaves a bitter taste in my mouth thought.

Waaaa  :cry
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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #278 on: June 11, 2009, 08:59:44 PM »
Here is something I've seen often and cannot figure out. Probably a simple explanation but still...
A few minutes ago I was looking to play and saw that LW Orange had 310/300 cap and LW Blue had 243/350 cap. So I went into the TA to warm up for a minute or two. I left the TA and saw that LW Orange had 315/300 and LW Blue was at 242/350. How does that happen? Where did those additional five players come from if the arena was capped? Do AFK players not count against the capacity of an arena?
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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #279 on: June 11, 2009, 09:04:20 PM »
Here is something I've seen often and cannot figure out. Probably a simple explanation but still...
A few minutes ago I was looking to play and saw that LW Orange had 310/300 cap and LW Blue had 243/350 cap. So I went into the TA to warm up for a minute or two. I left the TA and saw that LW Orange had 315/300 and LW Blue was at 242/350. How does that happen? Where did those additional five players come from if the arena was capped? Do AFK players not count against the capacity of an arena?

The Caps go up when each side goes past 245 players. So lets say:

LWO has 315/400

LWB has 246/450

5 minutes later

2 people leave from blue

LWO has 315/300

LWO has 244/350

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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #280 on: June 12, 2009, 12:45:19 AM »

Simple fact everyone would go to the one arena.

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Why would they do that? Is it possible they would do that because.......wait for it...







they want 1 arena?     :O


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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #281 on: June 12, 2009, 12:53:18 AM »
Why would they do that? Is it possible they would do that because.......wait for it...







they want 1 arena?     :O


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I think his point is that folks go to the mob the more there are in the arena.  Not many folks in AH can make the decision on their own to look for a fight from a disadvantage.  If they could, and would even things on their own and not horde, it wouldn't be an issue HTC has to address.  Look at Titanic Tuesday.  How often do you go in there and see three seperate hordes avoiding each other.  All the time.
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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #282 on: June 12, 2009, 12:56:03 AM »
Why would they do that? Is it possible they would do that because.......wait for it...


they want 1 arena?     :O


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Maybe it's because if you have 1 arena with say.. 550 pilots and another with 75 pilots and you log in, you are going to go to the arena with more action.  Kind of like the capitalistic analogy.. 'The rich get richer, and the poor get poorer'

It won't take the 75 players soon to realize that their fights suck and leave for the other arena as well.  Optimum population levels IMO are around 200-300 players.

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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #283 on: June 12, 2009, 01:26:52 AM »
  Look at Titanic Tuesday.  How often do you go in there and see three seperate hordes avoiding each other.  All the time.


I'm not sure I agree with this but I'll admit I don't look at the maps with that in mind. I do know that the fight between A1 and... 249?  as well as that higher base to the East.. A10? always seem to have a fight going on.

I love Titanic Tuesday because I know when I log on that I will be able to find darbars full of enemy cons.  I don't care if I'm the only green dot in the area.

 OTOH I'm not stomping my feet in demand for a single arena.  I enjoy the game and want others to enjoy it as well, but some of HT's comments seem to lead me to believe that many people would prefer one arena. If 2 arenas are here to stay, I'd like to see the smaller maps in both arenas.

Hey, I'm just giving my thoughts on the matter; just one moron, tossing his 2 cents.

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Re: My god would you please quit with the arena crap Hitech!
« Reply #284 on: June 12, 2009, 01:55:16 AM »
I'm not sure I agree with this but I'll admit I don't look at the maps with that in mind. I do know that the fight between A1 and... 249?  as well as that higher base to the East.. A10? always seem to have a fight going on.

I love Titanic Tuesday because I know when I log on that I will be able to find darbars full of enemy cons.  I don't care if I'm the only green dot in the area.

 OTOH I'm not stomping my feet in demand for a single arena.  I enjoy the game and want others to enjoy it as well, but some of HT's comments seem to lead me to believe that many people would prefer one arena. If 2 arenas are here to stay, I'd like to see the smaller maps in both arenas.

Hey, I'm just giving my thoughts on the matter; just one moron, tossing his 2 cents.

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I do believe you prefer the fight to the horde however :)

I know like my 80th crew, the Muppets bounce to whichever side needs the help or where the fight can be found.  I know there are others who do this as well, but they are in the minority.  If there were more folks willing to move to balance the arena and combat the horde mentality, I would imagine the need to limit arena size would be less.  But since most folks won't do this, HTC is put in the position of having to so that the welfare of all players is taken into account. 
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