Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16

[RumbleB]

personally, I'm way more relieved when I see a dot turns out to be a spit16 rather than a p51/FW and other runcrafts.

[Rich46yo]

I'd rather an enemy was in a Spit 16 then a P51D/190/Typhie...  At least I know the Spit16 is likely to fight instead of the one pass and haul "rear end" that passes for dogfighting these days.

Boy you guys are getting tired of the pick & run runstangs and FW-run90s too?

Bring on the Spits I say. At least they fight.

[bj229r]

Imagine you are a kid playing cowboys and indians....cowboys having Winchester rifles, indians having bows and arrows, mebbe old Brown Besses........the typical Spit16 driver (at least, anyone who's been playing AH more than 6 months) would deMAND to have a Thompson sub-machine gun, and would be DAMN PROUD of the injuns he managed to kill

[Karnak]

Imagine you are a kid playing cowboys and indians....cowboys having Winchester rifles, indians having bows and arrows, mebbe old Brown Besses........the typical Spit16 driver (at least, anyone who's been playing AH more than 6 months) would deMAND to have a Thompson sub-machine gun, and would be DAMN PROUD of the injuns he managed to kill

More like the Spit drivers are the Cowboys and the others are the Indians whining about the Cowboy's Winchesters.

[sonic23]

me im suppose to fly it.

[mtnman]

A well known player in this game told me one time that the plane he fly's in the game, he would fly that plane even if it was the worst plane in the game. And in his opinion, it just so happens that the plane he fly's is superior to all other plane's in the game hands down.

Pretty close...  What I actually said/meant is that IMO it's the "best" plane in the game...  It's not necessarily "superior" to any, or all, but it's definately the best.

It can't do some things that other planes can do, but it does everything pretty dang good.  It has some weaknesses, but I can deal with those.

I simply have very little or no interest in any of the other planes.  I'm not interested in very many of them from a historical standpoint, and I find most of them rather ugly...  When I see a spit, 109, 190, Lanc, etc.. I just think "man, someone sure gave that thing a severe beatin' with the ugly stick..."  Mustangs look OK, B17's and B25's look pretty good, B24's are ugly.

I primarily judge aircraft by how they look.  That's the most important aspect in my mind.  The F4U just plain looks the best.  It's as close to "perfection" as I can imagine a plane being.  

From a performance standpoint, I'd fly it regardless of how it compared to anything else.  I don't really care about that aspect so much.  When I started flying in AH, it was my main ride, er "coffin".  I still flew it.  I died and died and died.  Sometimes I even thought it was because of what the other guys flew.  I flew other stuff too, but felt goofy doing it, mainly because it's hard to not feel goofy when you're flying something goofy-lookin'.  I got past the urge to fly the goofy-lookin' stuff just because I wanted to get some kills or survive longer, or whatever.  I don't fly the goofy-lookin' planes anymore.  I fly the F4U instead.

I'm interested in F4U history, because it's F4U related.  I'm not really all that interested in WWII history overall, or in the history of any of the other WWII planes...  In general, WWII is too modern and high-tech to interest me...  I'm more interested in flint-knapping, fur-trade history, birds of prey, and falconry.

I play AH to fly corsairs.  I don't fly corsairs to do well in AH...

I don't fly the spits for the same reasons that I don't do lots of things.  The don't interest me in the least.  Plus, they're goofy-lookin.  Fighting them doesn't bother me at all.  A few holes can actually make them look better, or at least less goofy-lookin.  Simply because there's less of it to look at.  Less is definately more in that instance.

My main exception is when I'm teaching someone in the TA, and they want me to fly one of the goofy-lookin planes.  I'll do that without complaint, because that's just how I am...

I'm also very confidant that I can get kills in any plane I decide to fly.  It's harder for me to stomach the idea of flying a goofy-lookin' plane than it is to get a kill in it...

[EskimoJoe]

I fly the spixteen to piss people off from time to time 

[BnZs]

Boy you guys are getting tired of the pick & run runstangs and FW-run90s too?

Bring on the Spits I say. At least they fight.

I am not the least bit tired of them.

If you put yourself in the right place/right time, you can eat a steady diet attemped b'n'z P-51s/Typhs/D9s. Its mostly what I feed to the 47 and 190, with the occasional Spit or like who isn't looking behind him or is dumb enough to bite a rope as spice. Pilots who don't know a tactic except for running, in a plane that isn't good for much else...and because you positioned yourself correctly and left the uber-turner in the hangar, you just managed to run them down...what more could one ask for in a target?

[Kazaa]

Ask him not to drive from 15K to the deck at the 1st sign of trouble, reaching about mach 1 in the process.

[Shifty]

 I flew other stuff too, but felt goofy doing it, mainly because it's hard to not feel goofy when you're flying something goofy-lookin'.  I got past the urge to fly the goofy-lookin' stuff just because I wanted to get some kills or survive longer, or whatever.  I don't fly the goofy-lookin' planes anymore.  I fly the F4U instead.



I don't fly the spits for the same reasons that I don't do lots of things.  The don't interest me in the least.  Plus, they're goofy-lookin.  Fighting them doesn't bother me at all.  A few holes can actually make them look better, or at least less goofy-lookin.  Simply because there's less of it to look at.  Less is definately more in that instance.

 

What a great post. 

[stephen]

Spit16's ROCK,aaaah...

[BnZs]

Ask him not to drive from 15K to the deck at the 1st sign of trouble, reaching about mach 1 in the process.

The key is to be in something that *can* dive and run with him, even if you have to give up some of that oh-so-precious light wingloading to get it. And watching for the gomer to compress himself...just land a couple of long range pings so you get the kill when he goes splat. Easy as pie, no reason to complain to complain about P-51Ds when one has free access to many planes that are as fast or faster and  about equally or even more maneuverable.

[PFactorDave]

no reason to complain to complain about P-51Ds when one has free access to many planes that are as fast or faster and  about equally or even more maneuverable.

I would never complain about P51 Ds, just the really timid way that most people fly them.  It's boring.  Same goes for most 190s and just about all Typhies.  Just my opinion.

[Bark0]

IMHO


The Spitfire is thee Easiest plane to fly, Thee easiest plane to get kills in, and Thee easiest to talk about. Many people think it's Under modeled ( ) Many people think it's Over modeled. The Spitfire is considered a Noob Plane because when Noobs fly it, they see it's the easiest plane to fly so they will fly it All the time. The Spitfire IMO is over used. (No offense to you brits) when a base is being attacked pretty much all they Up is a Spitfire. Why? Is it because its easy to keep energy? Is it a noob? Is it a Battle of Britain Fanatic? you probbly will never know. I don't like the spitfire because when i'm caught in a fight with it I am at the Disadvantage (Isn't everyone?) Because I am the Slower plane, and its more heavier and less maneuverable. Ive herd stores of a spit being able to turn with a mustang at 450MPH and killing a tempest one shot. I'm A pretty good stick, I used a P-39 as my Trainer...and I hate flying Spitfires because when you fly something else, its like A brick! That's why i don't like the spitfire.

So who should use it? I have no clue. Whoever likes it I guess. I just don't like to fly/fight them becuase 4397854 seems to always win.

New players should stick to flying a P-51 or a 109. Stay off the Spitfire until you are Desparate for kills.

I quote a spitfire Pilot in WWII "Reminds me of when I sank the Tripitz, One pass of course old boy."

I know xbrit has been waiting for this post

 

[BnZs]

I wouldn't call the SpitfireXVI is over-modeled, or at least not severely so. You combine that light wingloading with that kind of thrust weight ratio, you *should* see some effects.

I wouldn't call the SpitfireXVI especially easy. There are many planes that are "easy to fly" in the technical sense, in fact many that are somewhat more stable. F6F, P-38, P-47D, etc. They just aren't as good for dogfighting in furballs full Spitfires, or able to run down as many double-inferior airplanes for easy kills as the SpitXVI is. The energy fight, where the SpitXVI shines more than in the angles fight, takes a skilled hand to practice and there are too few skilled hands in SpitXVIs.

I wouldn't call Spit pilots "unskilled". After all, they have to deal with lots of other people in identical planes, now don't they?

IMHO


The Spitfire is thee Easiest plane to fly, Thee easiest plane to get kills in, and Thee easiest to talk about. Many people think it's Under modeled ( ) Many people think it's Over modeled. The Spitfire is considered a Noob Plane because when Noobs fly it, they see it's the easiest plane to fly so they will fly it All the time. The Spitfire IMO is over used. (No offense to you brits) when a base is being attacked pretty much all they Up is a Spitfire. Why? Is it because its easy to keep energy? Is it a noob? Is it a Battle of Britain Fanatic? you probbly will never know. I don't like the spitfire because when i'm caught in a fight with it I am at the Disadvantage (Isn't everyone?) Because I am the Slower plane, and its more heavier and less maneuverable. Ive herd stores of a spit being able to turn with a mustang at 450MPH and killing a tempest one shot. I'm A pretty good stick, I used a P-39 as my Trainer...and I hate flying Spitfires because when you fly something else, its like A brick! That's why i don't like the spitfire.

So who should use it? I have no clue. Whoever likes it I guess. I just don't like to fly/fight them becuase 4397854 seems to always win.

New players should stick to flying a P-51 or a 109. Stay off the Spitfire until you are Desparate for kills.

I quote a spitfire Pilot in WWII "Reminds me of when I sank the Tripitz, One pass of course old boy."

I know xbrit has been waiting for this post