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Offline Yarbles

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Early war needs to be earlier.
« on: May 11, 2009, 05:22:18 AM »
I would make early war real early war as in september 1939 up to the end of the Battle of Britain and gradually introduce early war British and french tanks as well as early war French Aircraft. Italian early war stuff could be added eventually.

These early war types could then be used in a meaningfull way and would become popular in the game.

Russian American and Japanese stuff would be excluded.   
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Re: Early war needs to be earlier.
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2009, 07:37:49 AM »

Russian American and Japanese stuff would be excluded.   

Um. WHY?

Japan was fighting in China as early as 1935-1936. The F4F was in service by 1940.

Hey, I got an idea, let's just turn EVERYTHING into a Western Europe arena! It's not like the game isn't ALREADY Euro-centric enough!
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Re: Early war needs to be earlier.
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2009, 08:29:27 AM »
Um. WHY?

Japan was fighting in China as early as 1935-1936. The F4F was in service by 1940.

Hey, I got an idea, let's just turn EVERYTHING into a Western Europe arena! It's not like the game isn't ALREADY Euro-centric enough!

Good point about the planes but keep your hair on :D

(I think Uk may have bought f4f but not sure if it was in service. If it didnt fight it wont be included I am afraid  ;))
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Re: Early war needs to be earlier.
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2009, 09:05:59 AM »
Hey, I got an idea, let's just turn EVERYTHING into a Western Europe arena! It's not like the game isn't ALREADY Euro-centric enough!

Fortunately the US planeset makes up for that...

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Re: Early war needs to be earlier.
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2009, 01:51:45 PM »
Early War time line should be 1939 to 1941.


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Re: Early war needs to be earlier.
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2009, 06:23:48 AM »
Early War time line should be 1939 to 1941.


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I thought it was up to and including Pearl :frown: Harbour 
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Re: Early war needs to be earlier.
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2009, 06:26:19 AM »

Hey, I got an idea, let's just turn EVERYTHING into a Western Europe arena! It's not like the game isn't ALREADY Euro-centric enough!

There is a point here as the majority of WW2 was in eastern Europe. However the most significant and decisive air battle was the Battle Of Britain.
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Re: Early war needs to be earlier.
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2009, 10:39:07 AM »
It's not like the game isn't ALREADY Euro-centric enough!

What do you mean by this?
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Re: Early war needs to be earlier.
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2009, 10:42:17 AM »
I for one would love to have the planes available to run a Battle of France setup. Too bad that will happen in ..........2 weeks!
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Re: Early war needs to be earlier.
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2009, 10:56:18 AM »
What do you mean by this?

He means there arnt enough planes to particularly represent the Eastern Front as well as the Pacific to a lesser extent.

eg Soviet and Japanese Aircraft are under reoresented in terms of types. 3 x Soviet fighters vs for example v 11 British fighters. 
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Re: Early war needs to be earlier.
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2009, 11:25:08 AM »
He means there arnt enough planes to particularly represent the Eastern Front as well as the Pacific to a lesser extent.

eg Soviet and Japanese Aircraft are under reoresented in terms of types. 3 x Soviet fighters vs for example v 11 British fighters. 

That and the current terrain tiles are very definitely Western Europe in influence. The new terrain will fix that, but the MAPS we have are predominantly European as well. There's only maybe 2-3 maps on the Mains that could REALLY be qualified as "PTO."

When the new terrain is released I might toy around with my ComSoPac map idea again. It had a recreation of the Atoll from the old AW Pacific map in the center, and was mostly small airfields scattered around small islands with an "HQ" island for each country with much denser distribution of bases. Ports were all at the country's HQ base, with one more on each country's "forward base," (along with a strat). Losing a CV would REALLY hurt because of how far the boats would have to travel to get into the action, so smart usage of the task groups would be a major key (as opposed to running them up right off the shore).
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Re: Early war needs to be earlier.
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2009, 12:00:10 PM »
Ok, glad I asked...I thought you were somehow talking about the planeset.

EDIT/And yes, hopefully we'll get bunch of Soviet/Japanese a/c in somewhat near future after the terrain update./EDIT
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Re: Early war needs to be earlier.
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2009, 12:17:53 PM »
Early War time line should be 1939 to 1941.


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I thought it was up to and including Pearl :frown: Harbour 

December 7th, 1941


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Re: Early war needs to be earlier.
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2009, 07:32:40 PM »
Fortunately the US planeset makes up for that...

As well as the German and British.

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Re: Early war needs to be earlier.
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2009, 04:41:32 AM »
As well as the German and British.

I was being sarcastic :)