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Offline ImADot

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Re: CV control
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2009, 11:09:48 AM »
I totally agree that a blatent banana should get the boot.  I'm just saying, just because someone wasn't the CiC's choice to man the boat, that someone shouldn't automatically get the boot if the CiC sees him in control.

I also agree that the CiC has every right to know who's controlling his forces, and those in charge of a CV who were not the original commander have an obligation to either report in as such, or respond immediately when questioned about it.
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Re: CV control
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2009, 11:44:42 AM »
FSO could use a bit more harshness, imo.  :aok
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Re: CV control
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2009, 12:12:36 PM »
FSO could use a bit more harshness, imo.  :aok
Amen. When something like this happens it ruins the event for people.People that just might want to sit out the next frame.Or more. I think FSO should have a zero tolerance on these issues and the people or person involved be kicked out. They should also not be able to show up the following week. Or the next ....ect ect ect.
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Offline Saxman

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Re: CV control
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2009, 12:59:08 PM »
The thing is, this is something that should be able to police itself and not even REQUIRE a rule change:

1) CiCs establish at the frame's beginning who is driving the boat. More often then not this will come from the defending squadrons, though I know some CiC's in the past have had a non-flying "command staff" assigned to this. Either way, the commander of the boats should be decided before launch.

2) If the CV commander needs to turn over command to someone else, the CiC and other relevant parties (IE, if more than one defending squadron assigned to the CV, make sure BOTH COs are advised) should be made aware of the change FIRST so he can keep track of who is driving. This IMO is just good etiquette for ANY change in command during the frame. Whenever my squad is assigned by the CiC to command the local defense forces, if I have to log and turn command over to one of my other squad members I make sure to let the CiC and other squad COs in my defense area know. It doesn't take more than just a few keystrokes in the text bar.
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Offline Bannor

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Re: CV control
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2009, 01:06:18 PM »
From this point here is what I would do. As an example, whenever my squad does an internal "squad challenge", we post the rules of the event on our website, and anyone who wants to participate will sign off on it, "I have read the rules and understand". Simple. That said, I would say that before the next event, The CM sends out the rules to all the COs to read again, if they have not already, and sign off on them. Its up to the CO's of each squad to cascade that info to their own squad members. This will show accountability. This should be a pre-requisit for future squads who join. As for CV control, the CiC should determine who controls them. Anyone wishing to take command should PM the CiC directly prior to. I say PM because that stands out a lot better than country or command channels, and the CiC can respond a lot quicker. And in regards to Snowba11, I did get his attention, finaly, and he gave me his reasons for grabbing the CV. At the time he had it heading towards "out of bounds" so I made him turn it to keep it in. He made the set point short which put the CV in a turning motion, and then corrected it. I don't think he was being malicious and I may have made an error there at that particular point. One thing I am not good at is controling the ships, so I will practice this. It's just not something I was really interested in in the MA. But I have squaddies who are proficiant at it. I might suggest that when you are CiC, you designate a squad as owners of the CV and get conformation in the orders sent out. It boils down to communication. If you can clear that hurdle before an event, this should make things run a little smoother during the battle.

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Re: CV control
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2009, 01:13:21 PM »
Yeah, what Saxman said!
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Re: CV control
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2009, 01:32:37 PM »
By all means if a players won't relinquish control of a CV when instructed to by his superiors (his squad), another squad command staff, or the CiC and is causing such problems as sited contact the setup CM and he can either remove the player or at the very least remove the player's control of the CV so that somebody else can take control and rectify the situation.

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