Fuzzy Instruments

[Anaxogoras]

Some of us have noticed that our instruments appear a little bit fuzzy compared to the previous version of AH: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,270129.0.html

Unfortunately, although I tried out the beta I didn't really notice this until someone else pointed it out, otherwise I would have pointed it out sooner.

I downloaded and installed the new high res pack before I even loaded the game.  I have toyed with anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering, but neither made any difference.  I run 1280x1024 res.

Here is some of the dxdiag:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 7/29/2009, 19:07:39
       Machine name: ANAXAGORAS
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090206-1234)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
       System Model: G41M-ES2L
               BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
          Processor: Pentium(R) Dual-Core  CPU      E5200  @ 2.50GHz (2 CPUs)
             Memory: 3070MB RAM
          Page File: 457MB used, 4499MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce 9600 GT
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0622&SUBSYS_34A11458&REV_A1
   Display Memory: 512.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0011.7783 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 8/2/2008 00:20:00, 6049536 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: n/a
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n/a
         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 8/2/2008 00:20:00, 6121856 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4562-11CF-8F69-AA1400C2CB35}
        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
        Device ID: 0x0622
        SubSys ID: 0x34A11458
      Revision ID: 0x00A1
      Revision ID: 0x00A1
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         Registry: OK
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled
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 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
 D3D9 Test Result: Not run
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Thanks!

[klingan]

Thing is that i cant remember having fuzzy instruments in the beta version.

[branch37]

yea i noticed the fuzzy cockpit too, cant remember if this was in the beta 

[Tordon22]

I did not have the problem in beta.

[Ratpack1]

It was brought up in one of the beta threads. Not sure what the resolution to it was if any, you can search in the beta section.

[Brooke]

I downloaded and installed the new high res pack before I even loaded the game.

I have no idea if this would change anything, but shouldn't you install the latest hires texture stuff *after* the latest AH is installed (just in case the default AH install overwrites some things)?

[Anaxogoras]

I have no idea if this would change anything, but shouldn't you install the latest hires texture stuff *after* the latest AH is installed (just in case the default AH install overwrites some things)?

No, I installed the game first, and then installed the texture pack.  By "load" I meant running the .exe.

[Skuzzy]

Seems it could be video driver related.  See this thread.

[whiteman]

here's another thread with same issue. not sure how to relate it to the thread your referencing Skuzzy. I'm a computer idiot on this end.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,270152.0.html

[Skuzzy]

If you read the entire thread I linked, the player updated his video card driver and his problems went away.  Not sure that is actually the fix, and I know we are looking at it as well.

[Anaxogoras]

Hi skuzzy, I'm going to give that a try right now and see if it helps.  Thanks for your time.

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Edit:  I reinstalled the driver and there's no difference.  I searched the Nvidia site and this seems to be their newest driver that supports my 9600GT.  Give it a try?

[Skuzzy]

Also check the gauges after the 2.14 Patch 2 is installed.

[whiteman]

will try the driver, thinking that will fix it. I got rid of the Catalyst Control Center and using the ATI Tray Tools now.

[Anaxogoras]

Ok, I installed the latest driver from nvidia and Patch 2.  Then I reinstalled the hi-res texture pack just to be sure...  The instruments are still not as crisp as they used to be.

[Brooke]

Ok, I installed the latest driver from nvidia and Patch 2.  Then I reinstalled the hi-res texture pack just to be sure...  The instruments are still not as crisp as they used to be.

As an experiment, did you turn off all antialiasing, both in Aces High and in your nvidia control panel (including for any settings saved specifically for the Aces High program, i.e., any nVidia profile you have for that program specifically)?

You might already have done that -- just curious if it has any affect.