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cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« on: July 30, 2009, 06:21:08 PM »
i saw a show about the p47, and it showed a model that was modifyed to launch off a carrier deck. i was wondering if there could be a version of the p47 that could do this.

also, i saw on dogfights, a jappanese rocket plane called the ohka. in the real world, it was basically a piloted bomb, used strictly for kamakazie attacks. i was wondering if we could fit it with a 30 mil, or something along those lines. 

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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2009, 06:24:02 PM »
Neither of those were used in large (squadron level) numbers, the ohka never had a gun, but was used.

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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2009, 07:16:42 PM »
If you're a bit crafty, you can land, re-arm, and re-up a jug off cv....can only lift off with rockets and 1 500 tho
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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2009, 07:31:48 PM »
You can get a P-47N with 100% fuel, two 1,000lb bombs, rockets, and a 500lb bomb on the center pylon off the deck.

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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2009, 08:34:23 PM »
ok, well, that spoils my plans :(

another plane i was thinking about is the ki-43 oscar. this was a formitable foe for our flyboys in WW2. it has 1 12.7 mm mg, 1 7.7 mm mg, and can carry two 250 kilo bombs. i know what your thinking, this is an old, slow, underarmed plane, but it was the second-most used fighter plane by the IJN, next to the A6M zero.

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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2009, 11:59:35 PM »
The only modification made to the P-47 was the ability to attach catapult cables.  It was a one-time thing.  P-47s were ferried aboard carriers and launched upon reaching their destination instead of being unloaded by a crane in a port.

There were no provisions or plans for the Jugs to ever return tom the carrier they launched from.


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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2009, 12:09:20 AM »

also, i saw on dogfights, a jappanese rocket plane called the ohka. in the real world, it was basically a piloted bomb, used strictly for kamakazie attacks. i was wondering if we could fit it with a 30 mil, or something along those lines. 

No. Actually, not just no, but HELL NO.

The Ki-43 is BADLY needed for scenarios, however. So I'll give you a +1 on that. But it was an IJAAF bird, NOT IJN.

Just how much longer before summer's over? :rolleyes:
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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2009, 01:38:35 AM »
The only modification made to the P-47 was the ability to attach catapult cables.  It was a one-time thing.  P-47s were ferried aboard carriers and launched upon reaching their destination instead of being unloaded by a crane in a port.

There were no provisions or plans for the Jugs to ever return tom the carrier they launched from.


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That has me wondering, were the P-47's flown by USAF or USAAF pilots? I bet they didn't have much carrier experience.
Or maybe it was just plain easy to take off from a carrier in those days...

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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2009, 01:42:54 AM »
Or, a man's life was cheaper / less concerned with safety margins . . . . and you did what needed to be done.

Do you really think we would build Hoover Dam under the current OSHA regs? . . . . .

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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2009, 08:43:42 AM »
No. Actually, not just no, but HELL NO.

The Ki-43 is BADLY needed for scenarios, however. So I'll give you a +1 on that. But it was an IJAAF bird, NOT IJN.

Just how much longer before summer's over? :rolleyes:

oh, well, i get IJN and IJAAF mixed up sometimes. another thing we need for scenarios is the ki-45, it has a 20 mm cannon, and a 37 mm cannon
placed below the fuselage, not the nose. they left the nose empty because they wanted to fit it with radar, making it a very effective night fighter. it is also the only jappanese plane that has armor in the cockpit, and also has self-sealing feul tanks. it also has a rear-firing 7.92 mm machine gun. we need this so we wont have to substitute the bf-110 for it (like were doing in the fso tonight)
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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2009, 08:50:26 AM »
You can get a P-47N with 100% fuel, two 1,000lb bombs, rockets, and a 500lb bomb on the center pylon off the deck.

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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2009, 12:50:53 PM »
That has me wondering, were the P-47's flown by USAF or USAAF pilots?

US Army Air Force. ;) Wasn't until the Korean war that the Air Force was it's own branch of the military.
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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2009, 01:09:01 PM »
i saw a show about the p47, and it showed a model that was modifyed to launch off a carrier deck. i was wondering if there could be a version of the p47 that could do this.


No.  5 minutes of research would have told you why this will never happen.

P-47s are not carrier capable planes and the times they were used off a CV were ferry mission with no intent of having the Jugs return to the CV and land.


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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2009, 01:56:50 PM »
No.  5 minutes of research would have told you why this will never happen.

P-47s are not carrier capable planes and the times they were used off a CV were ferry mission with no intent of having the Jugs return to the CV and land.


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Only time I can ever see it happening is in an FSO, snapshot or scenario representing the handful of times land-based aircraft were loaded for a strike before proceeding to a land base for further operations (Operation Torch comes to mind).
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Re: cv-able p47's, and the ohka
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2009, 02:00:50 PM »
Hmmmm...OOOKKKKk......but does it stay in air more than 10 seconds? ;)

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I dragged the tail for a good 75 feet......got it up intact no damage tho!

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