A380 Landing

[Baumer]

Thought some would be interested in the A380 landing at Oshkosh. Looks like a good carrier landing! LOL

http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/exclusivevids/EAAAirVenture2009_AirbusA380_HardLanding_200850-1.html

[WilldCrd]

dayum! what a piss poor landing and at a major US airshow  .

With all the speculation lately about the airbus rudders and its deflection amounts with only slight pressure on the controls, that video really shows it.

[Strip]

dayum! what a piss poor landing and at a major US airshow  .

With all the speculation lately about the airbus rudders and its deflection amounts with only slight pressure on the controls, that video really shows it.

I fail to see how you can determine how much pressure was applied to the rudder from a film.

[WilldCrd]

I fail to see how you can determine how much pressure was applied to the rudder from a film.

I can't really, just going by the amount of deflection and the comentary from the pilot critiquing the landing

[Strip]

The amount of deflection was never a problem neither the control force. It was going full deflection back and forth in both directions rapidly. You could argue that the light control force made this condition easier. Of course thats like saying its easier to speed in a car with more throttle tho.

[Die Hard]

dayum! what a piss poor landing and at a major US airshow  .

With all the speculation lately about the airbus rudders and its deflection amounts with only slight pressure on the controls, that video really shows it.

You're talking about a 1970s A319 with the sensitive rudder controls. It was specific to that model.

[Dago]

You're talking about a 1970s A319 with the sensitive rudder controls. It was specific to that model.

The A319 was not produced in the 70's.

[RufusLeaking]

The amount of deflection was never a problem neither the control force. It was going full deflection back and forth in both directions rapidly. You could argue that the light control force made this condition easier. Of course thats like saying its easier to speed in a car with more throttle tho.

You are correct.  He over corrects on the rudder.  This is what the 777 guy is talking about when he refers to pilot induced oscillation (PIO).

On most modern, large airplanes, the rudder has more deflection at low speeds.  Or maybe the logic is that there is less deflection at high speeds to prevent over stressing the vertical stabilizer. 

Wasn't there a fatal Airbus crash in NY just after 9/11 that was caused by the pilot making rapid rudder inputs?

[Die Hard]

A300, not 319. My mistake.

[JunkyII]

Looks like the pilot was looking at the cameras instead of the runway

[Denholm]

"That hurt all the way to the bank."

Perhaps the pilot was thinking 777 not 380?

[avionix]

Just remember these small details.  While the runway at Oshkosh does have the length for the A380, there is only one taxiway that can handel an aircraft with that kind of weight.  The turn off for that taxiway is at the 5000 foot mark.  So, he has to land an A380 within that length and get it slowed down enough to be able to get it on the taxiway all while landing in a crosswind.  I am a little willing to cut him the slack.

[Wolfala]

Just remember these small details.  While the runway at Oshkosh does have the length for the A380, there is only one taxiway that can handel an aircraft with that kind of weight.  The turn off for that taxiway is at the 5000 foot mark.  So, he has to land an A380 within that length and get it slowed down enough to be able to get it on the taxiway all while landing in a crosswind.  I am a little willing to cut him the slack.

+1

Saw the landing in person. Can't blame the guy. The C-5 that came in yesterday had harder landings.

[AAJagerX]

He made up for the landing with a really cool flight demo on Friday though.